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Call me "j0" -_-



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trangentspree said:
Now, onto you.  What you're doing is called "tunneling."  It's when you focus on one or two players to the exclusion of everyone else.  It's one of the least productive things you can do as pro-town because it essentially means you stop scumhunting while you're focusing on a couple people.  Even on Day 1 when I was pursuing hatmoza and SciFiBoy, I was pressing sabby_e17, theRepublic, Vetteman94, and a couple others.  In a big game like this, there's life after your main two suspects die presuming you're still around so you can't just focus all your efforts on a couple people and expect to win.

Conversely, scum are good for tunneling.  They don't care about the next day or scumhunting.  As long as they get a mislynch, they're totally satisfied with the result because it brings them one step closer to winning.  Be suspicious of me if you like, but if you're going to focus on me then your tunneling is far scummier than my being off-target once.

Right now I'm concerned that the two most vocal players so far are mafia and are misleading the town. I don't think it's much to ask that you be investigated by the Cop tonight. If you come out innocent then we can be fairly sure you are what you claim to be.

And I never even mentioned that you were off-target...

Two most vocal so far?  You're being pretty vocal here yourself, at least as much so as zexen.

Step into my shoes for a second:

You're the most influencial/vocal/whatever person in the game.  You get protected on Night 1 as usual.  You lose your protection on Night 2 as usual.  The bad guys know of this with reasonable certainty and people are asking to have you investigated on Night 2.

What potential outcomes do you see in this?



Words Of Wisdom said:
trangentspree said:
Now, onto you.  What you're doing is called "tunneling."  It's when you focus on one or two players to the exclusion of everyone else.  It's one of the least productive things you can do as pro-town because it essentially means you stop scumhunting while you're focusing on a couple people.  Even on Day 1 when I was pursuing hatmoza and SciFiBoy, I was pressing sabby_e17, theRepublic, Vetteman94, and a couple others.  In a big game like this, there's life after your main two suspects die presuming you're still around so you can't just focus all your efforts on a couple people and expect to win.

Conversely, scum are good for tunneling.  They don't care about the next day or scumhunting.  As long as they get a mislynch, they're totally satisfied with the result because it brings them one step closer to winning.  Be suspicious of me if you like, but if you're going to focus on me then your tunneling is far scummier than my being off-target once.

Right now I'm concerned that the two most vocal players so far are mafia and are misleading the town. I don't think it's much to ask that you be investigated by the Cop tonight. If you come out innocent then we can be fairly sure you are what you claim to be.

And I never even mentioned that you were off-target...

Two most vocal so far?  You're being pretty vocal here yourself, at least as much so as zexen.

Step into my shoes for a second:

You're the most influencial/vocal/whatever person in the game.  You get protected on Night 1 as usual.  You lose your protection on Night 2 as usual.  The bad guys know of this with reasonable certainty and people are asking to have you investigated on Night 2.

What potential outcomes do you see in this?

youre probably dead tonight?



trangentspree said:

Also I don't fully understand your reasons for suspecting him. Why is it so bizarre that Zexen managed to survive the night when you did also? Are you that sure that the Doctor was going to protect you? Until the Doctor role-claims and can attest to this, I see no reason to believe it. Or are you going to tell me that this is one of those things that always happens when you play mafia?

 

Until???? Why on earth would a doctor roleclaim, even if to protect WoW. Besides, a doctor could protect a mafia member unknowingly...




Words Of Wisdom said:

Right now I'm concerned that the two most vocal players so far are mafia and are misleading the town. I don't think it's much to ask that you be investigated by the Cop tonight. If you come out innocent then we can be fairly sure you are what you claim to be.

And I never even mentioned that you were off-target...

Two most vocal so far?  You're being pretty vocal here yourself, at least as much so as zexen.

Step into my shoes for a second:

You're the most influencial/vocal/whatever person in the game.  You get protected on Night 1 as usual.  You lose your protection on Night 2 as usual.  The bad guys know of this with reasonable certainty and people are asking to have you investigated on Night 2.

What potential outcomes do you see in this?

I'm being vocal about this because I don't see anybody else questioning your motives.

You're asking the town to play by your assumptions and not question whether you're one of us or you're trying to screw us over.

I don't assume you got protected Night 1 as usual (unless the Doctor is here to say otherwise). I won't assume you will be gone by Night 2.

Put yourself in our shoes:

You claim you're going to die Night 2. We don't investigate you Night 2. You don't die Night 2 and we still have no idea whether you're to be trusted or not in Day 3.

At least if you're investigated Night 2, whatever the outcome, we will know what alignment you are and whether we are to trust anything you have said so far.



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trashleg said:
trangentspree said:

And now you have suddenly called him out with suspicion.

Also I don't fully understand your reasons for suspecting him. Why is it so bizarre that Zexen managed to survive the night when you did also? Are you that sure that the Doctor was going to protect you? Until the Doctor role-claims and can attest to this, I see no reason to believe it. Or are you going to tell me that this is one of those things that always happens when you play mafia?

 

WoW is alive not because he was being protected, because the doctor should have been protecting dtewi.

i reckon he's alive cos he wasn't targeted?

 

@zexen, don't give me that. you've been a cultist then, at least once.

You said mafia. Cultist = not mafia. I was an SK once, if we go for that. And besides, I was cultist for exactly one day....




The night was pretty bad, but the modkil kinda made up for it. I still don't get how there were 3 mafia kills though, 3 factions sounds terrible(in a way that it sounds unbalanced).

zex has a weird outlook on this game. "Its okay if we lynch since he roleclaimed plain townie" and "2 mafia down, 4 townies down, thats good". One was modkilled and other apparently killed by another mafia faction. I wouldn't say its all that great. He was also somehow more aggresive yesterday. Hes up there on my suspicion list. It also seems like hes trying to start the sabby bandwagon vote.

trashleg just joined and didn't even do anything over the night, so blank.

j0's posts aren't very useful (who am I to say ), his one-liners (not really but you get the meaning). He only came up when you (WoW) asked for his opinion(again, pretty much same with me ).

vette just showed up and voted zex for an pretty bad but reasonable vote. Voting because "he attacked on zex?", sounds weak to me.

sabby's reason for voting zex is the same. "He lynched hatmoza, a townie, so he must be scum!" Sounds pretty weak.

falcon sided with WoW on "zex suspicion campaign" and on sabby wait bandwagon as well. Thats about it. Not enough.

dtewi role claimed cop and cleared SFB. I believe him for now.

trangentspree. Now this one, my instinct tell me he is scum. Doesn't sound convincing, does it? I just get that feeling >.
For now, I'd go with sabby and/or vette (somehow they might be connected and their vote reasons are weak), trangent or zex (he does seem different).

As for ArkZero, lestat, darth, seraphic, sak etc., they don't post enough...



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."

 

SciFiBoy said:

youre probably dead tonight?

I am telling the Doctor to protect dtewi and not me.

If we have multiple mafia groups then that means conceivably some could attack me and some could attack dtewi.  The Doctor can only protect one of us and dtewi's role is way more valuable than my insight right now.  That's part of the reason I'm mentioning things like buddying, tunneling, and the rest.  If I don't get up tomorrow morning with the rest of the town then at very least I can leave the other pro-town folks with some weapons to hunt scum.



zexen_lowe said:
trangentspree said:

Also I don't fully understand your reasons for suspecting him. Why is it so bizarre that Zexen managed to survive the night when you did also? Are you that sure that the Doctor was going to protect you? Until the Doctor role-claims and can attest to this, I see no reason to believe it. Or are you going to tell me that this is one of those things that always happens when you play mafia?

 

Until???? Why on earth would a doctor roleclaim, even if to protect WoW. Besides, a doctor could protect a mafia member unknowingly...

So you think it's fine to just assume who the Doctor protected Night 1?



trangentspree said:
zexen_lowe said:
trangentspree said:

Also I don't fully understand your reasons for suspecting him. Why is it so bizarre that Zexen managed to survive the night when you did also? Are you that sure that the Doctor was going to protect you? Until the Doctor role-claims and can attest to this, I see no reason to believe it. Or are you going to tell me that this is one of those things that always happens when you play mafia?

 

Until???? Why on earth would a doctor roleclaim, even if to protect WoW. Besides, a doctor could protect a mafia member unknowingly...

So you think it's fine to just assume who the Doctor protected Night 1?

Oh wow, I didn't even notice that.

You want the doctor to role-claim?
I finaly have a legit reason to vote for you.

vote: trangentspree



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."