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trashleg on 07 February 2010
trangentspree said:
trashleg said:
trangentspree said:

And now you have suddenly called him out with suspicion.

Also I don't fully understand your reasons for suspecting him. Why is it so bizarre that Zexen managed to survive the night when you did also? Are you that sure that the Doctor was going to protect you? Until the Doctor role-claims and can attest to this, I see no reason to believe it. Or are you going to tell me that this is one of those things that always happens when you play mafia?

 

WoW is alive not because he was being protected, because the doctor should have been protecting dtewi.

i reckon he's alive cos he wasn't targeted?

 

@zexen, don't give me that. you've been a cultist then, at least once.

Why should the Doctor have been protecting dtewi last night? Dtewi only role-claimed Cop today... the Doctor whoever they may be wouldn't have known Dtewi was the Cop when deciding who to protect.

WoW might have not been targetted last night, but then why does WoW think it's so odd that Zexen might not have been targetted either?

sorry, its confusing joining a game after the first day, i was confusing yesterday real time with today game time, since its been going on since yesterday.

FoS: zexen. he's way too aggressive and i don't trust him.



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Son1x on 07 February 2010

With the number of kills, I don't think WoW was targeted this night (at least by a killing role).



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."

 

Words Of Wisdom on 07 February 2010
trangentspree said:

And now you have suddenly called him out with suspicion.

Also I don't fully understand your reasons for suspecting him. Why is it so bizarre that Zexen managed to survive the night when you did also? Are you that sure that the Doctor was going to protect you? Until the Doctor role-claims and can attest to this, I see no reason to believe it. Or are you going to tell me that this is one of those things that always happens when you play mafia?

And this is not not the question I asked. I asked whether it had ever happened before during one of these games.

And if I haven't made myself clear, you and Zexen are my prime suspects.

I want WoW to be investigated by the Cop tonight.

You don't understand my reasoning because I don't have any.  I noticed an oddity in the night's actions, not an oddity in playstyle.  It could mean something, it could mean nothing, but it's odd none-the-less.

I answered the more important question of why no one has tried lying about the Cop role.  Are you accusing dtewi?


Now, onto you.  What you're doing is called "tunneling."  It's when you focus on one or two players to the exclusion of everyone else.  It's one of the least productive things you can do as pro-town because it essentially means you stop scumhunting while you're focusing on a couple people.  Even on Day 1 when I was pursuing hatmoza and SciFiBoy, I was pressing sabby_e17, theRepublic, Vetteman94, and a couple others.  In a big game like this, there's life after your main two suspects die presuming you're still around so you can't just focus all your efforts on a couple people and expect to win.

Conversely, scum are good for tunneling.  They don't care about the next day or scumhunting.  As long as they get a mislynch, they're totally satisfied with the result because it brings them one step closer to winning.  Be suspicious of me if you like, but if you're going to focus on me then your tunneling is far scummier than my being off-target once.



c03n3nj0 on 07 February 2010
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c03n3nj0 said:

I definitely agree with Darth being modkilled if he doesn't show up.

Also, axumblade, where you gonna say something about me on your post? because I see a "jo" right at the end of nen and zexen's segment.

There were actually a few times I was going to refer to you in my post. One of which was this  recap which you talked about a few of your suspicions that you have, but it also peaked my interest about your feelings toward supermario128's short sentences, which I thought was interesting that someone would pay attention to that specific detail (and dsister pointed that out to you in a post as well) so I dismissed it because I don't think that had any grounds. 

My thoughts weren't supposed to be flatout accusations but more of a way to express statements that happened on the first day that relate to those who died. I didn't reread every argument so it's possible I missed a few suspicious posts (I've never admitted to being a professional profiler, in fact, it led to a wrongful lynching of SFB a long time ago in a game). 

@WoW, was I the person who you were referring to as "???"

Oh, well, I just usually associated Mario to post a lot more, so his post stood out a bit more to me. And for dsister's post, he said I knew why he wasn't posting (although, I seem to not have gotten the memo that he was doing some project.) And I see he edited the FoS - jo part



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c03n3nj0 on 07 February 2010
Son1x said:
With the number of kills, I don't think WoW was targeted this night (at least by a killing role).

That's a good point. I didn't think about that...



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Words Of Wisdom on 07 February 2010
c03n3nj0 said:
trangentspree said:

WoW might have not been targetted last night, but then why does WoW think it's so odd that Zexen might not have been targetted either?

I think she just assumes she got protected. 

It's hard to tell if WoW is scum or not, she always asks for protection, and most of the times she gets it. 

So we really need dtewi (or if there's another cop?) to investigate her tonight. 

Exactly.  9 times out of 10, I ask and get protected on Night 1.  It's not so very odd for scum to not target me right off the bat because it's very likely I'm a wasted bullet thanks to the Doctor.  On Day 2, the Cop or other investigative role will appear and take the Doctor's protection.  What this means is that I am very unlikely to die Night 1 but very likely to die Night 2 and beyond.



Words Of Wisdom on 07 February 2010

Right now I'd like hear from... Son1x.

Who are your suspects and why Son1x? You haven't really contributed much this game so let's have it.



trangentspree on 07 February 2010
Now, onto you.  What you're doing is called "tunneling."  It's when you focus on one or two players to the exclusion of everyone else.  It's one of the least productive things you can do as pro-town because it essentially means you stop scumhunting while you're focusing on a couple people.  Even on Day 1 when I was pursuing hatmoza and SciFiBoy, I was pressing sabby_e17, theRepublic, Vetteman94, and a couple others.  In a big game like this, there's life after your main two suspects die presuming you're still around so you can't just focus all your efforts on a couple people and expect to win.

Conversely, scum are good for tunneling.  They don't care about the next day or scumhunting.  As long as they get a mislynch, they're totally satisfied with the result because it brings them one step closer to winning.  Be suspicious of me if you like, but if you're going to focus on me then your tunneling is far scummier than my being off-target once.

Right now I'm concerned that the two most vocal players so far are mafia and are misleading the town. I don't think it's much to ask that you be investigated by the Cop tonight. If you come out innocent then we can be fairly sure you are what you claim to be.

And I never even mentioned that you were off-target...



Son1x on 07 February 2010

Hey hey, I've contributed more than half in the first day

Anyway, let me reread, give me few mins.

For now, I'll say that I'm not glad FF is dead due to my role.



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."

 

sabby_e17 on 07 February 2010

@SciFiBoy: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3121924&page=52&postnum=9

@cojo30: I was being sarcastic, thought some would pick it up.