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Vetteman94 on 04 February 2010
makingmusic476 said:
Sorry for being MIA these past few days. Between a sudden uptick in my work schedule, plenty of schoolwork, and now White Knight Chronicles, I have little time left for Mafia. =(

I've PM'ed trucks about it, so you may be seeing some changes to the roster soon.

Well that sucks

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Final-Fan on 04 February 2010

There was a guy who was being held "in reserve", right? I guess we'll see if he's interested.



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dtewi on 04 February 2010

I think the consensus is pretty solid and won't change in the next 3 hours. Should day just end?



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dtewi on 04 February 2010
theRepublic said:
dtewi said:
zexen_lowe said:

Actually, I have a crazy theory, but it wouldn't mean anything about hatmoza being mafia. It's crazy, but here goes

Imagine Sabby being Mafia and Hatmoza being Townie. Sabby would know hatmoza is town, since he's not in the same group as them. And we start piling on hatmoza...for being an even weirder hatmoza than usual. So Sabby sees it as the perfect chance. He comes forward and defends hatmoza, so if we lynch him, hatmoza is found town, sabby comes out clean as he defended him and we're framed for it, now he can take control of the game and attack us.

I don't say that the theory is true, but it's something that occurred to me to justify Sabby's completely out of character defending, without having to resort to the "both are mafia" argument

That's a brilliant theory, but a tad too convoluted for someone to reasonably use it I think. But it will be kept in mind.

I don't think it is convoluted at all.  It would be relativity simple to pull off.  All you need to do is defend a pro-town player who looks likely to be lynched that day.

It is the same concept as when a mafia attacks another mafia, so that when one of them gets lynched, the other looks innocent.

When you put it that simply, it really doesn't sound convoluted at all.



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theRepublic on 04 February 2010

If you had not figured it out yet, I found the bad RAM and pulled it out of my computer. I'm operating with half of the memory that I had before, but it works for now. I should be more active than I was the first couple of 'real' days. I just finished carefully rereading the thread and I have a few thoughts.

ArkZero
DaBuddahN
Darthdevidem01
KingFate
lestatdark
Seraphic_Sixaxis
SuperAdriank
supermario128

Those eight are big time lurkers. They all have seven posts or less, and most of those posts do not contribute much if anything.

At this point, I feel like what is happening to Hatmoza is pretty much exactly what I did to Sabby last game. Pick out something stupid a traditionally crazy player said on Day One, and watch as they self-implode trying to defend themselves. It seems to be particularly effective against vanilla townies, as role claiming can't save them like it would a power role. For that reason, I am not comfortable lynching Hatmoza.

Vote: No Lynch

The reason for voting this way is that with the deadline coming up it is currently in second place vote-wise. I just don't think Hatmoza is that stupid or crazy. It looks like he is going to be lynched though, so I guess we will see if I am proven wrong on that.



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dtewi on 04 February 2010

^What about SciFiBoy? He is acting very peculiar. It seems (cue opinion/hypothesis) that he wanted to avoid lurking and be assumed mafia (which he could be) and to cover for himself, he started posting stuff, any stuff so that it wouldn't be assumed. I mean, random crap into a big argument? Seems a tad fishy. (end opinion/hypothesis)

I doubt this somewhat, just wanted to throw that theory out there. No Lynch isn't helpful at all, Republic, and if we waste a chance at a possible mafia member, then that sucks. The consequences don't really outweigh the possible benefits. If he (hatmoza) is a simple townie like he roleclaimed, then not much harm done. If he is mafia and we don't lynch him, big harm right there.



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Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

theRepublic on 04 February 2010
Words Of Wisdom said:

@trang

You're not familiar with my presence in games so I'll give you the run down.  I'm always investigated Night 1 or Night 2 (for good reason).  Always.  Which means the Cop appears on Day 2 or Day 3 and the Doctor stops protecting me at that time.  Basically I live until the Cop roleclaims.

And yes, there is a way this game should be played.  Mafia is a game of the informed minority versus the uninformed majority.  In traditional mafia, the day game is more involved than the night game.  Lots of discussion, accusations, and other good stuff.  It feels like half the players in this game are lurking though and many of the ones that are active aren't actually scumhunting.

Also, now is a good time to begin:  I'd like the Doctor to protect me tonight.

I'm curious to know how you can ask for the doctor's protection with a straight face when your previous post just above it says this:

Right now no one should be defending anyone because none of know anyone's alignment but our own... except for the mafia.
So why should the doctor defend you?



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SciFiBoy on 04 February 2010
dtewi said:
^What about SciFiBoy? He is acting very peculiar. It seems (cue opinion/hypothesis) that he wanted to avoid lurking and be assumed mafia (which he could be) and to cover for himself, he started posting stuff, any stuff so that it wouldn't be assumed. I mean, random crap into a big argument? Seems a tad fishy. (end opinion/hypothesis)

I doubt this somewhat, just wanted to throw that theory out there. No Lynch isn't helpful at all, Republic, and if we waste a chance at a possible mafia member, then that sucks. The consequences don't really outweigh the possible benefits. If he (hatmoza) is a simple townie like he roleclaimed, then not much harm done. If he is mafia and we don't lynch him, big harm right there.

um...I never lurk unless im busy or the internet goes down...I normally try and post alot in these threads...

you mean like at the start? I was just bored and being silly, I normally do that on day 1, lol



dtewi on 04 February 2010
theRepublic said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

@trang

You're not familiar with my presence in games so I'll give you the run down.  I'm always investigated Night 1 or Night 2 (for good reason).  Always.  Which means the Cop appears on Day 2 or Day 3 and the Doctor stops protecting me at that time.  Basically I live until the Cop roleclaims.

And yes, there is a way this game should be played.  Mafia is a game of the informed minority versus the uninformed majority.  In traditional mafia, the day game is more involved than the night game.  Lots of discussion, accusations, and other good stuff.  It feels like half the players in this game are lurking though and many of the ones that are active aren't actually scumhunting.

Also, now is a good time to begin:  I'd like the Doctor to protect me tonight.

I'm curious to know how you can ask for the doctor's protection with a straight face when your previous post just above it says this:

Right now no one should be defending anyone because none of know anyone's alignment but our own... except for the mafia.
So why should the doctor defend you?

Well, it's most likely that WoW would be targeted due to her aggressive gameplay. Unless it's a ploy and she's mafia.

Gah, it's confusing.



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dtewi on 04 February 2010
SciFiBoy said:
dtewi said:
^What about SciFiBoy? He is acting very peculiar. It seems (cue opinion/hypothesis) that he wanted to avoid lurking and be assumed mafia (which he could be) and to cover for himself, he started posting stuff, any stuff so that it wouldn't be assumed. I mean, random crap into a big argument? Seems a tad fishy. (end opinion/hypothesis)

I doubt this somewhat, just wanted to throw that theory out there. No Lynch isn't helpful at all, Republic, and if we waste a chance at a possible mafia member, then that sucks. The consequences don't really outweigh the possible benefits. If he (hatmoza) is a simple townie like he roleclaimed, then not much harm done. If he is mafia and we don't lynch him, big harm right there.

um...I never lurk unless im busy or the internet goes down...I normally try and post alot in these threads...

you mean like at the start? I was just bored and being silly, I normally do that on day 1, lol

Fuck off mystery gift lady!

OT: Well, we were in the middle of an argument and you went off being silly. A bit sketchy.



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Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

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