Well, really, I presume he meant the specific stuff hatmoza said, not the general concept of indicting people based on their posts.  

[edit:  also, mark your edits.  HUGE no-no otherwise.] 

I'm kinda interested in that. I'm using WoW's rule of thumb (from other games, not from this), that towns can never know anything about the alignment others beforehand, that's a mafia. For example, I never said WoW was town, or even suggested she could be. And yet, you sabby seem to know very well that hatmoza is town, without a shade of doubt, when I wouldn't vouch for the townyness of ANYONE here

Certainly it gives you insight on something, how the hell can you be so sure of hatmoza being town? Maybe because you know who the mafia are (being you one of them)?

EDIT: There should be a "trait" after "beforehand, that's a mafia"

@ FF, My bad -_-

@ Zex, the reason for not finding suspicion of hatmoza is well, it was a comment on the first day (before the day actually started) and it was most likely a joke. And then under questioning hatmoza pretty much cracked, like he does a lot of times.

That's what I'm assuming, at least.

(forgot to type this) - and besides, how can you that sure he's scum?

That's a reason for not voting for him, and I understand that. But a reason for vouching for his pro-town alignment? That's much, much more than something that you can get with posts of only one day

Edit: And I threw the last sentence as a question, not an accusation

thats the point I was making, it works both ways, no-one should be behaving as though they know somone elses alignment for certain, im sorry if people didnt understand the way I was making that point, but do you see what I mean

I dont think that anyone is definitley anything, I suspect hatmoza of being scum, enough to vote for him? no, but as I apparently have to vote for someone, I have done so.

What game have I lied about my role? I have never seen Hatmoza tell the truth about his role. Last game he even said something like "I would have roleclaimed magic toaster had it helped me"...

FoS: Hatmoza, and Sabby_e17

thats a very good point, sabby is acting to confident about hatmoza's alignment, this increases my suspicion of hatmoza and also:

FoS Sabby_e17

Actually, I have a crazy theory, but it wouldn't mean anything about hatmoza being mafia. It's crazy, but here goes

Imagine Sabby being Mafia and Hatmoza being Townie. Sabby would know hatmoza is town, since he's not in the same group as them. And we start piling on hatmoza...for being an even weirder hatmoza than usual. So Sabby sees it as the perfect chance. He comes forward and defends hatmoza, so if we lynch him, hatmoza is found town, sabby comes out clean as he defended him and we're framed for it, now he can take control of the game and attack us.

I don't say that the theory is true, but it's something that occurred to me to justify Sabby's completely out of character defending, without having to resort to the "both are mafia" argument

That's a brilliant theory, but a tad too convoluted for someone to reasonably use it I think. But it will be kept in mind.

Honestly, I keep thinking a fellow mafia would have thrown hatmoza under the bus a long time ago.