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sabby_e17 on 04 February 2010
dtewi said:
sabby_e17 said:
zexen_lowe said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

Oh, don't worry, if he turns up mafia, you, nen and scifi are the first ones to go to the lynching row, so it's OK that you say that

You too don't worry, because if he turns up town, you and WoW are the first ones to go to the lynching row so it's OK that you say that.

Plus do you think Mafia are daft? 3 Mafia backing a fellow Mafia? Mafia aren't stupid. My suspicion just rose for you. 

That's a rather harmless statement he made. It's not even that suspsicious, but you go ahead and suspect him due to that?

By implying that us three are Mafia. I find it weird, maybe you don't.

 




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dtewi on 04 February 2010
SciFiBoy said:
dtewi said:
SciFiBoy said:
dtewi said:

Mafia can bandwagon vote onto a fellow mafia member in order to divert attention away from themselves. The fact that you are so passionate about the cause that there is no proof hatmoza is scum (when there never is any in Mafia) just further causes me to believe you are scum.

FoS: SFB

thats not the point im making AT ALL FFS

my point is that people are attacking people who didnt vote or attack hatmoza as though its tommorow and hatmoza has been confirmed anti-town already

im not saying we shouldnt lynch someone without proof? I have NEVER said that, at all, in any mafia game to my knowledge.

No, that looks like you saying "don't lynch someone without proof".

@sabby

Well, he is certainly acting strange, but if you can't keep your cool in this game, it's basically a done deal.

thats not what im saying, I never said that

im saying we shouldnt act as though we have proof of something when we dont, big difference.

so, yes, vote for and attack people, fine, but dont attack people for not attacking hatmoza as though we already know hatmoza is anti-town, that makes no sense.

Ah, okay, I misunderstood you. I thought you meant don't vote for hatmoza without proof, not what you just said.



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SciFiBoy on 04 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

Oh, don't worry, if he turns up mafia, you, nen and scifi are the first ones to go to the lynching row, so it's OK that you say that

this is exactly my point, some people are already behaving as though he has turned up mafia, yet he hasnt yet.



sabby_e17 on 04 February 2010
dsister44 said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

And Hatmoza has never lied about his role before right?

Can you explain how this fits in here?

I've lied about my role before. So has Hatmoza. So have you. So have countless others. So your argument means nothing.




dtewi on 04 February 2010
sabby_e17 said:
dsister44 said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

And Hatmoza has never lied about his role before right?

Can you explain how this fits in here?

I've lied about my role before. So has Hatmoza. So have you. So have countless others. So your argument means nothing.

Actually, it nullifies your argument because you assume that his role-claim is genuine.



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Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

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Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

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Final-Fan on 04 February 2010
dtewi said:
SciFiBoy said:
dtewi said:
SciFiBoy said:
Final-Fan said:
I think I'd actually rather lynch SFB than hatmoza, because the strong defense SFB was giving him and subsequent freaking out about people calling it "defending" instead of "saying he's not suspicious enough to lynch" is better than hatmoza's insanity, and the "if one is scum, then the other probably is too" reciprocity is just as good.

But it's too late to switch IMO, and I definitely want to lynch ONE of them. So I won't change my vote.

wow...so defending myself from accusations that are false isnt allowed now either

im curious, with all the things I apparently cant do without being suspected, what the fuck can I do at this point?

it seems to me to be a case of anyone who doesnt do what certain posters want them to do MUST BE SCUM AND DIE...

also, I have now voted for Hatmoza as my top suspect, im still not convinced, but im fed up of people having a go at me for not voting

I really dont get this, HOW ARE YOU SO SURE HATMOZA IS SCUM??? its disturbing, some of you are acting as though youve been sent conformation of that already? AND WHY IS ANYONE WHO DOESNT SAY "HATMOZA IS DEFINITLEY SCUM AND SHOULD DIE" IMMEDIATLEY SUSPICOUS AND A TARGET?

we have confirmed nothing about hatmoza yet, nothing, yet some of you are playing like he has already been confirmed as anti-town

again, I am not scum, I am not defending hatmoza (my vote is on him ffs, what more do you want? do you want me to blackmail TruckO into modkilling him?)

Mafia can bandwagon vote onto a fellow mafia member in order to divert attention away from themselves. The fact that you are so passionate about the cause that there is no proof hatmoza is scum (when there never is any in Mafia) just further causes me to believe you are scum.

FoS: SFB

thats not the point im making AT ALL FFS

my point is that people are attacking people who didnt vote or attack hatmoza as though its tommorow and hatmoza has been confirmed anti-town already

im not saying we shouldnt lynch someone without proof? I have NEVER said that, at all, in any mafia game to my knowledge.

No, that looks like you saying "don't lynch someone without proof".

@sabby

Well, he is certainly acting strange, but if you can't keep your cool in this game, it's basically a done deal.

I agree with dtewi.  Also, your ALL-CAPS question is a ludicrous exaggeration; no one has been attacked for not voting hatmoza.  

And I am really interested in how your protest that "nothing has been confirmed about hatmoza" so it's "disturbing" that we're confident enough to lynch him is different from saying "we don't have proof, so we shouldn't lynch him".  

[edit:  I see your response.  OK, you didn't mean it that way, but still, you're wrong:  we AREN'T acting like he's proven guilty already; we AREN'T attacking people for not voting hatmoza (give me one counter-example).]  

P.S.  If hatmoza does turn up scum, I think this may well be a really short game.  But on the other hand, it seems a little TOO much for experienced players like SFB and sabby to have total meltdowns and strong associations with fellow mafia, respectively.  

If hatmoza turns up innocent, I look forward to the fireworks.  



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zexen_lowe on 04 February 2010
sabby_e17 said:
zexen_lowe said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

Oh, don't worry, if he turns up mafia, you, nen and scifi are the first ones to go to the lynching row, so it's OK that you say that

You too don't worry, because if he turns up town, you and WoW are the first ones to go to the lynching row so it's OK that you say that.

Plus do you think Mafia are daft? 3 Mafia backing a fellow Mafia? Mafia aren't stupid. My suspicion just rose for you. 

But WoW, me, FF, Dgc and Dtewi being all mafia is a perfectly credible thought? Yeah, makes so much sense




sabby_e17 on 04 February 2010
dtewi said:
sabby_e17 said:
dsister44 said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

And Hatmoza has never lied about his role before right?

Can you explain how this fits in here?

I've lied about my role before. So has Hatmoza. So have you. So have countless others. So your argument means nothing.

Actually, it nullifies your argument because you assume that his role-claim is genuine.

I feel that he is Pro-town. Of course he could easily be scum. 

I think lynching Hatmoza based on what he said isn't good enough. 




c03n3nj0 on 04 February 2010
sabby_e17 said:
dtewi said:
sabby_e17 said:
dsister44 said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

And Hatmoza has never lied about his role before right?

Can you explain how this fits in here?

I've lied about my role before. So has Hatmoza. So have you. So have countless others. So your argument means nothing.

Actually, it nullifies your argument because you assume that his role-claim is genuine.

I feel that he is Pro-town. Of course he could easily be scum. 

I think lynching Hatmoza based on what he said isn't good enough. 

Erm, how else would they be suspicious of someone otherwise? 

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sabby_e17 on 04 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:
sabby_e17 said:
zexen_lowe said:
sabby_e17 said:

Don't lynch Hatmoza.

He role-claimed vanilla townie...I agree it was a stupid move, but why lynch him for it? Shouldn't we keep as many good guys alive?

He's acting weird...he always does.

I think those are the two main reasons he is getting voted to die. Based on these two reasons, it's stupid to lynch him. If there are other reasons why he's getting lynched, someone please fill me in.

If Hatmoza does get lynched, I will heavily suspect those that pressurised him, aka zexen, WoW etc.

EDIT: Vote: Darthdevidem

Oh, don't worry, if he turns up mafia, you, nen and scifi are the first ones to go to the lynching row, so it's OK that you say that

You too don't worry, because if he turns up town, you and WoW are the first ones to go to the lynching row so it's OK that you say that.

Plus do you think Mafia are daft? 3 Mafia backing a fellow Mafia? Mafia aren't stupid. My suspicion just rose for you. 

But WoW, me, FF, Dgc and Dtewi being all mafia is a perfectly credible thought? Yeah, makes so much sense

It was sarcasm.

But you are at the top of my list, I just don't have much against anyone atm to proceed voting. 

And where did I label Dtewi and Dgc as Mafia?