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Final-Fan on 03 February 2010
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:
hatmoza said:
coming to think of it , the only person I'm pressuring is Zexen. What are you talking about FF? ? ?

Well, as I recall it, the people pressuring you have been mainly WoW, zexen, myself, and I think Dgc.  You've lashed out at or made counteraccusations against WoW, zexen, and I think Dgc.  I'd also put dtewi in both of those groups except he hasn't posted that much.  

Zexen, yes. WoW was me being bitter. And wtf dtewi??? All I said about dtewi is that he was a lurker, and that was because I was asked who I thought were lurkers.

I was actually being civil with dgc, yes he voted me and was aggressive towards me but I don't think I've lashed at em, did I?

FF are you even keeping up with the game? Now out of all your games is not the time to slack! :P

Well, OK, for dtewi, it's not "accused" so much as simply "attempted to lynch".  And as for Dgc, please note that I said lashed out OR counteraccused.  If I recall correctly that you made perfectly civil accusations about Dgc, that fits what I said.  

Not to make assumptions about your thought process, but are you sure you're reading my posts as carefully as perhaps you should?   



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Son1x on 04 February 2010

At thic pace, we won't be going anywhere.

I say we settle for a lurkers. It might make some active.



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theRepublic on 04 February 2010
Words Of Wisdom said:
Vetteman94 said:

And I have always had my distrust for the ones who seems to try and take over a game by dictating who to vote for, especially ones who havent been confirmed as pro-town. 

Wrong.

theRepublic said:

Words of Wisdom seems to be trying to dominate the game right now. That doesn't sit well with me. Leading the town is fine, but the way it is being done just doesn't feel right at the moment.

Wrong.

Disagree with my reasoning, not me.  If you think hatmoza is innocent then don't vote him, but don't vote "No Lynch" because you don't like my playstyle.  That's not helping the town.  That's running away from the game.

So I'll ask you both directly:  Does hatmoza seem scummy to you?

Read the post you quoted.



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theRepublic on 04 February 2010

I also didn't vote no lynch, and I have not run away from the game. Voting no lynch does not mean you are running away from the game either. I already said this. Apparently you are only skimming posts, or just hammering the same point over and over again.



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Words Of Wisdom on 04 February 2010

SciFiBoy said:

so, you quote my post, so you can ignore what it says?

I didnt say we should only lynch people we are certain are mafia, I know we are never certain

I said we should weigh up the risk of lynching someone vs how supsicous they are, its a judgement call, we each judge whether we are suspicious enough of a player before we decide to vote for him

hell, I even say these things in the post you quoted?

why do people not read my posts? or at least not read them fully or say I said things that I deliberatley avoided saying...

You know better than what you just wrote.  You know me far better than that.

Now, let's talk SciFiBoy.  

You've been repeating over and over that you find no one suspicious but let me share a little secret with you:  that's a big scum tell.

SciFiBoy said:  I dont think hatmoza is suspicious enough to vote for and I dont think anyone else is either, it is day 1

SciFiBoy said:  I find no-one highly suspicous like I said

You see, it's really hard for scum to find people suspicious because they don't scum hunt.  They can't, because they know who they are.  So it's pretty common to see scum going "Well I have no idea who's scum" because they don't want to finger one another and they certainly don't want to seem suspicious by becoming directly responsible for a mislynch.  Scum are often willing to bandwagon but unwilling to fire the first shot.  That's exactly what you've been doing here.

SciFiBoy said:  im not saying I dont suspect him, im saying I dont suspect him enough to lynch hi

SciFiBoy said:  I even said I would be "keeping a close eye on hatmoza" in the first post...which I am...

So just as a little house-cleaning, which of these two SciFiBoys are we to believe?  The one who finds no one suspicious?  Or the one who finds hatmoza suspicious but not enough to vote for him yet?

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Words Of Wisdom on 04 February 2010
theRepublic said:

I also didn't vote no lynch, and I have not run away from the game. Voting no lynch does not mean you are running away from the game either. I already said this. Apparently you are only skimming posts, or just hammering the same point over and over again.

The "No Lynch" part was mostly aimed at Vetteman94 but the attitude part was aimed squarely at you.



Son1x on 04 February 2010

Thats some strong stuff against SFB. Did he suspect (like name and reason) or defend anyone else besides hatmoza?



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Final-Fan on 04 February 2010

Wait a minute. Leaving Vetteman and theRepublic aside, voting No Lynch just to be contrary to WoW is certainly ill-advised, but how exactly is it "running away from the game"? It's stupid, but it's the opposite of running away from the game to mindlessly clash with people.



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theRepublic on 04 February 2010
Final-Fan said:
Wait a minute. Leaving Vetteman and theRepublic aside, voting No Lynch just to be contrary to WoW is certainly ill-advised, but how exactly is it "running away from the game"? It's stupid, but it's the opposite of running away from the game to mindlessly clash with people.

Just to be clear, I haven't done anything just to be contrary to anyone.  I have not voted yet either.

I agree with you on your main point, and you are at least the third or fourth person to make it.  I expect WoW to ignore it as he has the others.



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SciFiBoy on 04 February 2010
Words Of Wisdom said:

SciFiBoy said:

so, you quote my post, so you can ignore what it says?

I didnt say we should only lynch people we are certain are mafia, I know we are never certain

I said we should weigh up the risk of lynching someone vs how supsicous they are, its a judgement call, we each judge whether we are suspicious enough of a player before we decide to vote for him

hell, I even say these things in the post you quoted?

why do people not read my posts? or at least not read them fully or say I said things that I deliberatley avoided saying...

You know better than what you just wrote.  You know me far better than that.

Now, let's talk SciFiBoy.  

You've been repeating over and over that you find no one suspicious but let me share a little secret with you:  that's a big scum tell.

SciFiBoy said:  I dont think hatmoza is suspicious enough to vote for and I dont think anyone else is either, it is day 1

SciFiBoy said:  I find no-one highly suspicous like I said

You see, it's really hard for scum to find people suspicious because they don't scum hunt.  They can't, because they know who they are.  So it's pretty common to see scum going "Well I have no idea who's scum" because they don't want to finger one another and they certainly don't want to seem suspicious by becoming directly responsible for a mislynch.  Scum are often willing to bandwagon but unwilling to fire the first shot.  That's exactly what you've been doing here.

SciFiBoy said:  im not saying I dont suspect him, im saying I dont suspect him enough to lynch hi

SciFiBoy said:  I even said I would be "keeping a close eye on hatmoza" in the first post...which I am...

So just as a little house-cleaning, which of these two SciFiBoys are we to believe?  The one who finds no one suspicious?  Or the one who finds hatmoza suspicious but not enough to vote for him yet?

er, I found hatmoza more suspicous as the day has gone on because he was acting overly defensive, im fairly sure I even said so.

Its not a case of im not scum hunting, its a case of hunting, but not just killing the first thing I see without first trying to decide how likely it is that that person is scum

I am not scum...not even close...

does it really hurt you to read all of all my posts? to me it just seems like your being selective on purpose to try and put suspicion on me...now who's using scum tactics?