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hatmoza on 03 February 2010
lestatdark said:

 

Probably, but like I said, everyone is being wary in the first days. The more veteran ones are analyzing based on previous trends, i'm analyzing from what i've seen so far. 
As this is my first game, I'll probably screw up, but I want to learn as well, and your coming off too defensive. 
You may be actually town and you're just acting up your part, but every actor knows that there are proper timings to do so, not goble up the stage every chance that they get.
My vote still stands

 

Probably, but like I said, everyone is being wary in the first days. The more veteran ones are analyzing based on previous trends, i'm analyzing from what i've seen so far. 

 

As this is my first game, I'll probably screw up, but I want to learn as well, and your coming off too defensive. 

 

You may be actually town and you're just acting up your part, but every actor knows that there are proper timings to do so, not goble up the stage every chance that they get.

 

My vote still stands

Vote: Hatmoza 

 

 

I absolutely respect your opinion. But lemme tell you a secret about the veterans ... pst, they envy me



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SciFiBoy on 03 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:
SciFiBoy said:
zexen_lowe said:

The point is, we (or, rather, I) think he's mafia, not town. But we know that, in the case he's town, his role is less useful than others.

so, you are happy to take that risk? granted its a risk with lynching anyone, but on the first day that risk is even higher, factor in hatmoza normally playing like this, that risk goes higher again, tell me what brings that risk down, if you give me enough things that do, I will consider voting hatmoza

so far I only have 1, his over defensiveness earlier in the game, that said, plenty of people have done that in the past and turned out both pro and anti town

Going with that way of thinking, you'd never lynch anyone, ever. No, I'm not sure hatmoza is mafia, I can't be ever, but if you lynched only when you're 100% sure, almost every night would end with No Lynch. I don't know what do you need, and I'm not trying to swing your vote (nor care to), I already said why I think hatmoza is mafia, and why even if he isn't mafia his loss isn't a huge blow for the town at all, if that's enough for you, you can vote him, if it's not, find someone else who you think it's suspicious.

READ MY POST IN FULL, THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID

I said that we should consider the risk of being wrong in any lynch we attempt, if we have good reasons why a person might be mafia then that reduces the risk attached to lynching them, the question is, are the reasons to vote hatmoza enough to sufficiently reduce (in our individual judgements) the risk of lynching him?

my answer is that currently, no, those reasons do not sufficently reduce the risk for me to vote for him. (im not saying I dont suspect him, im saying I dont suspect him enough to lynch him, yet alone start a small crusade to acheive that lynch)





lestatdark on 03 February 2010
hatmoza said:
lestatdark said:

 

Probably, but like I said, everyone is being wary in the first days. The more veteran ones are analyzing based on previous trends, i'm analyzing from what i've seen so far. 
As this is my first game, I'll probably screw up, but I want to learn as well, and your coming off too defensive. 
You may be actually town and you're just acting up your part, but every actor knows that there are proper timings to do so, not goble up the stage every chance that they get.
My vote still stands

 

Probably, but like I said, everyone is being wary in the first days. The more veteran ones are analyzing based on previous trends, i'm analyzing from what i've seen so far. 

 

As this is my first game, I'll probably screw up, but I want to learn as well, and your coming off too defensive. 

 

You may be actually town and you're just acting up your part, but every actor knows that there are proper timings to do so, not goble up the stage every chance that they get.

 

My vote still stands

Vote: Hatmoza 

 

 

I absolutely respect your opinion. But lemme tell you a secret about the veterans ... pst, they envy me

As they envy you, you must also envy them, since you yourself are a veteran in this :P



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nen-suer on 03 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:
I guess that digging through my behavior in Round 9 didn't allow you to read what I said in this round. If you check my posts in the beginning, which I'm too lazy to dig up, I said that I understood that that was how hatmoza always played. But he took it very far, completely ignoring questions and not taking the game seriously, thus the vote

Now he's trying to get the trust back....but he roleclaimed townie. A useless roleclaim that if it's true it only helps the mafia, because they'll have one less possible target during the night, thus if hatmoza is telling the truth, the only thing he did is increase the chance of an important pro-town dying this night. That's how useful hatmoza is to the game, and that's why I'm not going back on my vote

But that the way he always plays zex

under pressure hatmoza cracks, innocent or not

i just hope he doesn't post his role pm xD

 

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hatmoza on 03 February 2010

I do not crack! -_- I'm just a sensitive person ...

post my PM aye? :P



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nen-suer on 03 February 2010
SciFiBoy said:
zexen_lowe said:
SciFiBoy said:
zexen_lowe said:

The point is, we (or, rather, I) think he's mafia, not town. But we know that, in the case he's town, his role is less useful than others.

so, you are happy to take that risk? granted its a risk with lynching anyone, but on the first day that risk is even higher, factor in hatmoza normally playing like this, that risk goes higher again, tell me what brings that risk down, if you give me enough things that do, I will consider voting hatmoza

so far I only have 1, his over defensiveness earlier in the game, that said, plenty of people have done that in the past and turned out both pro and anti town

Going with that way of thinking, you'd never lynch anyone, ever. No, I'm not sure hatmoza is mafia, I can't be ever, but if you lynched only when you're 100% sure, almost every night would end with No Lynch. I don't know what do you need, and I'm not trying to swing your vote (nor care to), I already said why I think hatmoza is mafia, and why even if he isn't mafia his loss isn't a huge blow for the town at all, if that's enough for you, you can vote him, if it's not, find someone else who you think it's suspicious.

READ MY POST IN FULL, THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID

I said that we should consider the risk of being wrong in any lynch we attempt, if we have good reasons why a person might be mafia then that reduces the risk attached to lynching them, the question is, are the reasons to vote hatmoza enough to sufficiently reduce (in our individual judgements) the risk of lynching him?

my answer is that currently, no, those reasons do not sufficently reduce the risk for me to vote for him. (im not saying I dont suspect him, im saying I dont suspect him enough to lynch him, yet alone start a small crusade to acheive that lynch)

I agree with this

Am not very good with words like this guy here



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Son1x on 03 February 2010

nen seems to defend hatmoza.
And zexen is trying to get hatmoza lynched.



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."

 

Son1x on 03 February 2010

Too late to edit, so double post.
SFB is also "defending" hatmoza. (and subtly attacking zexen)

What a plot twist :O



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."

 

SciFiBoy on 03 February 2010
Son1x said:
Too late to edit, so double post.
SFB is also "defending" hatmoza. (and subtly attacking zexen)

What a plot twist :O

wrong and wrong

im explaining why I dont think we should lynch hatmoza TODAY based on CURRENT evidence.

I queried Zexen's post's and there content as I found them unusual, at no point have I FoS'd or Attacked him, I have no current intention or reason to do either of those things, I think he is being a little OTT on wanting to lynch Hatmoza, that is my only current thought regarding his behaviour.



nen-suer on 03 February 2010
lestatdark said:
hatmoza said:
lestatdark said:

 

Probably, but like I said, everyone is being wary in the first days. The more veteran ones are analyzing based on previous trends, i'm analyzing from what i've seen so far. 
As this is my first game, I'll probably screw up, but I want to learn as well, and your coming off too defensive. 
You may be actually town and you're just acting up your part, but every actor knows that there are proper timings to do so, not goble up the stage every chance that they get.
My vote still stands

 

Probably, but like I said, everyone is being wary in the first days. The more veteran ones are analyzing based on previous trends, i'm analyzing from what i've seen so far. 

 

As this is my first game, I'll probably screw up, but I want to learn as well, and your coming off too defensive. 

 

You may be actually town and you're just acting up your part, but every actor knows that there are proper timings to do so, not goble up the stage every chance that they get.

 

My vote still stands

Vote: Hatmoza 

 

 

I absolutely respect your opinion. But lemme tell you a secret about the veterans ... pst, they envy me

As they envy you, you must also envy them, since you yourself are a veteran in this :P

lol, killzowned



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