I actually made it to day 5 and 6 the last 2 games.
you guys are seriously living in the past and deny me my awesomeness. HELLO MAFIA MVP!

EDIT oh and MM. I was the mafia who targeted you when falcon set you up like a christmas tree

no no, that was the previous game. 

you know when I'm town I tend to not care what I say, especially the first day. But if will make you all feel better, I'll calm down.

I always change to serious mode after day one, when we can actually have something to work on.

Ok, I'm a bit confused..
First Hatmoza comes and starts acting a bit crazy so WoW (And more people) start jumping into him, later when he says "wth WoW" and she answers with "contribute or get lynched" he suddenly doesn't care what she thinks anymore. After that he is starts saying that we should lynch the lurkers because it's the best, which is not really correct.. I'm pretty sure that most of the time lurkers have ended up being towny that apparently didn't care much about the game (like RTC), when WoW says that's being scummy (which it is) he justifies himself by saying that's what he can offer (And I think saying something like that is lame..) when WoW ask him for his lurker option, he says that a consistent luker like me or dtewi.. Ok.. let's stop there.. He wants to lynch a "lurker" judging from previous games when he is acting pretty much like past games in which he has been anti-town.

Let's look at at what hatmoza has done so far..
- Acting crazy
- Say "lynch a lurker" (and specially me)
- Defy WoW saying that she will suffer when he appears as pro town
- Have this "stick with what I think 'till the end" mentality

Just because you claim to be pro town this game aint meant that eveybody will think the same, Hatmoza.

Now let's continue..

He claimed this "WoW is intimidated by my consistency".. Ok.. Could somebody tell my a reason of why would WoW be intimidated for a consistency of being a crazy player who got himself lynched (or killed) everytime inventing roles and making no sense? I can't think in anything.. Yeah you got a MVP Mafia, but that doesn't really mean that were exaclty the best player, just that you were the best mafia, and to be honest the mafia didn't shine in that game, now, I'm not saying you played bad.. You actually almost made everybody believe you, but between dsister and DBN that didn't go too far.

After that he got voted and he apparently is proud of his attitude and claim that it makes experience players and he threaten WoW, like he has done in past games. Then he voted No lynch and when sfb made fun because he didnt say a reason he said that he wanted to vote for a lurker but since it's not going to happen he just voted no lynch and said that eventhough he is gonna get lynched he doesn't care because he never give up.. the hell? Are you some sort of kamikaze, hatmoza? That's the attitude that has killed you in most (if not all) games.. It's like when Carl was a pro town role (and many times a good one) and when he was being voted all that he did was.. "I'm pro town stop voting for me or you will see tomorrow". I don't know what you think hatmoza but "never give up" in those cases doesn't make you look like a hero or brave.

Later he tried to blame WoW of his craziness when even himself said it early and when zex stated his past mistakes he claims again that WoW just want him because of his apparently "awesome" consistency and start bragging about he has lived longer in the past 2 times and his award that while show that he played better, also show that mafia wasnt exactly the best in that last game.

And now he's justifying himself saying he doesn't pay attention of what he says in first day and that he calms down after it.

(now if you all excuse me this post took me like 1hr and I really have to sleep lol)

hatmoza maybe acting strangely.....but he act like this in all games i played

Am not convinced he is scum yet

Plus he is not stupid, why take the risk of being caught in a lie by the "Lie Detector" (if there is one)?

Specially seeing that he maybe the only one claiming on the first day.

Lynching lurkers is fine, but you cant identify them from the first day

Not to mention that most of them end up being townies (or Doctors like Carl)


vote: no lynch

Here is a list of all hatmoza's posts so far (I think). I will give some commentary on some of them, and among other things try to show why I thought he was acting crazy even before the thing with WoW got going, and has if anything gotten worse.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3108392&page=1&postnum=23
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3108413&page=1&postnum=25
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3108437&page=1&postnum=31
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3108515&page=1&postnum=40
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3108524&page=1&postnum=42
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111328&page=4&postnum=6
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111478&page=4&postnum=17
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111547&page=4&postnum=27
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111550&page=4&postnum=28
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111715&page=4&postnum=35
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111720&page=4&postnum=36
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111724&page=4&postnum=38
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111759&page=4&postnum=43
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111766&page=4&postnum=44
15.
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111779&page=4&postnum=46
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111833&page=5&postnum=1
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111835&page=5&postnum=2
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111843&page=5&postnum=5
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111861&page=5&postnum=6
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111886&page=5&postnum=8
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111930&page=5&postnum=11
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3111963&page=5&postnum=15
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112007&page=5&postnum=25
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112030&page=5&postnum=29
25.
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112585&page=5&postnum=46
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112596&page=5&postnum=47
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112604&page=5&postnum=48
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112617&page=5&postnum=50
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112635&page=6&postnum=2
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3112646&page=6&postnum=4

1. "I can be crazy again!" You are literally saying that you are often crazy and expect (if not intend) to be crazy in this game. Even if you're joking, it's hard to blame WoW for pinning the "crazy" tag on you.

6. "lol at all the WoW imitators" What??

But yes, you did mention that the Day 1 stuff will be useful later.

7. Another strange post.

8. Here you make a point that would be reasonable if you had substantiated it. WoW appears to be presuming you want to lynch lurkers for no particular reason, whereas the logical reason to infer is the well-known "lynch all lurkers" rationale. But no, you said, "[WoW] want[s] everyone to contribute but [does]n't consider that contribution." Where is your evidence for the allegation that your idea 'didn't count' as being active, instead of just being a dumb idea?

9. First time I noticed you brought up the "WoW is framing me as crazy" defense.

14. 'WoW is attacking me because he's afraid of my awesome unreadablility. I can't blame him for being intimidated by my awesomeness.' Frankly I consider this theory of yours part of my "crazy and proud of it" theory.

19. Repeat of the "WoW frame job" defense. Also, I just want to say that I like how you want us to believe your proclamation of being pro-town when you say you act exactly the same way regardless of alignment -- which means you'd have said the same thing if you were scum.

24. Oh, I missed this. You explained why you voted No Lynch despite having said you really want to lynch lurkers -- apparently because you didn't think a lurker lynch was likely to happen. But that's no reason to give up so easily and vote the opposite of what you actually want to do IMO. Well, except as an attempt to cut people off from voting YOU rather than a lurker. Irony: "Don't worry, I never give up." Except on lynching lurkers apparently?

25. I hope this goes some way towards answering why I said you were acting crazy even before WoW focused on you. As for "what questions", will you really tell me you didn't feel under interrogation at all? Even back when WoW was specifically asking people qeustions?

And yes, I'm sure the bitterness is part of what I was thinking was simply erratic behavior (lashing out).

26. Seriously? I don't even know how you misread my post to get the interpretation that you seem to be responding to. As you said (for the second time, I think, not tenth), posts can contribute meaningfully even if they don't catch a bad guy immediately.

27. The return of the "WoW can't handle my awesomeness" defense.

28. Bragging about your mafia exploits. I'm logical enough to not take that as a sign you're mafia now but it wouldn't be hard to think that's the case.

30. Contradicting your "I always act the same" claim. Or, alternatively, wording your statement very strangely indeed.

And I believe that brings us up to now.

hatmoza is pretty hard to read with his crazy ass attitude.
WoW is acting a little different, but she hasn't played in couple of games now (due to hosting them).
FF's trying to connect some and making them talk (FoSing them).

A very lively day 1 indeed.

I'm up for day 1 lynch, but the question asked every first day, who can you lynch on day 1?

Someone mentioned lestat once. This is his first game, so he doesn't know how to play very well and might have totaly forgotten about it. I'll remind him when I talk to him next time.

Vote: Hatmoza

This attitude of yours doesn't help the town as all, either drop it, or I'll keep my vote. I don't know exactly what you want, and yes, you're consistent with your playing...that doesn't help you at all, you've been mafia quite a lot of times