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SciFiBoy on 01 February 2010
hatmoza said:
axumblade said:
hatmoza said:
axumblade said:
Final-Fan said:
Dgc1808 said:
hatmoza said:
lol at all the WOW imitators.

I still stand by what I said yesterday. We always complain and suffer for letting lurkers stick around too long. If we are going to lynch anyone today, it might as well be a lurker. I'm not saying that today's back and forths are not going to be useful in the future. Depending on who comes up scum and comparing who they got into arguments day one can somewhat narrow down our choices . But for now (day one) this information is useless, unless someone is stupid enough to slip up like Dgc did a few games back.

So are you saying we should just lynch a Lurker and not talk?

We should talk long enough to figure out who the Lurkers are in this game, and then lynch one of them.  

Sounds like a plan.  

ok then. I'm still salty that wow didn't include me in her group therapy sessions though -_-

Or we could all vote for hatmoza and see if he's lying abou being protown. :P 

I'm pro-town dammit >_< 

look at the innocence of my avatar!

becuase avatar = alignment?

in that case im the most logical player...yeah...that aint right...lol



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c03n3nj0 on 01 February 2010
hatmoza said:
axumblade said:
hatmoza said:
axumblade said:
Final-Fan said:
Dgc1808 said:
hatmoza said:
lol at all the WOW imitators.

I still stand by what I said yesterday. We always complain and suffer for letting lurkers stick around too long. If we are going to lynch anyone today, it might as well be a lurker. I'm not saying that today's back and forths are not going to be useful in the future. Depending on who comes up scum and comparing who they got into arguments day one can somewhat narrow down our choices . But for now (day one) this information is useless, unless someone is stupid enough to slip up like Dgc did a few games back.

So are you saying we should just lynch a Lurker and not talk?

We should talk long enough to figure out who the Lurkers are in this game, and then lynch one of them.  

Sounds like a plan.  

ok then. I'm still salty that wow didn't include me in her group therapy sessions though -_-

Or we could all vote for hatmoza and see if he's lying abou being protown. :P 

I'm pro-town dammit >_< 

look at the innocence of my avatar!

She looks like she wants to rip my head off while I sleep. 

Mafia style. 



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Words Of Wisdom on 01 February 2010
Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
Hello everyone, Here is one observation I found that was a little interesting.

I hate bringing up past games but it can give a little insight into peoples normal habits. Of the few games I have played with WoW, she has always suggested no lynch for the first day. Since it almost always gives the town an extra day to lynch an anti-town member when you have more information available to you. She has even provided a table to prove it, and that reasoning is completely sound, as it does work in the towns favor.

So why is she pushing to have a forced lynch on the first day? Why force a blind lynch with little to no information and hoping that someone will slip up on a day one. One thing that never really happens.

Not to mention that I am always a little suspicious of people who try and take control of the game early on, which is another thing she is trying to do.

FoS: WoW

This is excellent, exactly the sort of thing I was wondering about but couldn't remember.  I second this. 

My table in the past is based on the idea that there's one mafia kill per night and one town lynch during the day.  So 2 deaths maximum means that the game will end on a certain day regardless of whether or not that first night ends in a lynch.  However, in a game as large this you can't possibly believe there will be only 2 deaths per night.  We have no idea of knowing what day the game will end on thus we don't know whether a "No Lynch" on Day 1 will matter or not.  Making the same assumptions is a bad idea.

Since the last mafia game I played, I've "leveled up" a few times and learned quite a bit more about the game.  Dialog is key, connections are key, and anyone not providing conversation or actively scum hunting is a liability to the town.  Right now hatmoza isn't scumhunting, he isn't helping the town, he's going "Shoot a lurker instead of me just cuz."  Not only does that make him just as bad as a lurker but it scummy behavior in and of itself.



Words Of Wisdom on 01 February 2010
DaBuddahN said:
Sorry I've been away!
Well I read through most of the pages, and I think Hatmoza is just trying to too hard and it backfired

Sorry I've been away!

Well I read through most of the pages, and I think Hatmoza is just trying to too hard and it backfired.

VOTE: Hatmoza

He's trying what too hard and what do you think of sabby_e17's almost blatant attempts to buddy?



Words Of Wisdom on 01 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:
I think we need to pick a plan of action instead of waiting for the next person to post, that's leading us nowhere. We can either focus on hatmoza or focus on Dgc (or both). I don't think there's enough reason to lynch either yet, but I'd like to hear these two talk, to see who could be more lynchable (of course, keeping eyes open for whatever new thing surfaces)

Hey zexen, is it just me or is SciFiBoy just saying random things in every one of his posts?



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Words Of Wisdom on 01 February 2010
Final-Fan said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
c03n3nj0 said:
We don't take the first day as seriously anymore. 

I'm going to ask that TruckOSaurus make a rule that the town must lynch someone each day.  I'm tired of Day 1 ending on No Lynch every game with no discussion.

I think that's kind of an overreaction.  I mean, not everyone gives decent discussion on Day 1, but a lot of people usually do, and the same could be said of a lot of subsequent days.  And don't you think the town is punished enough by giving scum a free pass?  

It's been a while, so I forget what your current attitude suggests based on past performance -- and your GMing might have altered you anyway.  

For hatmoza, I could see him making the same post no matter what the truth was, so it didn't mean much to me.  
For Dgc, it didn't send up any red flags at all for me but I'm tired.   
For zexen, I don't think I have much to go on.  
For WoW, it just occurred to me that he's simply taking a "bad cop" stance in the laudable pursuit of better Day 1 conversation.  

Happy WoW?   

Yes.  I like your posts so far.  I hope you're not scum.

What do you think of DabbuddahN's vote for hatmoza without a good explanation?  Does it seem like he's trying to start a bandwagon to you?



hatmoza on 01 February 2010
Words Of Wisdom said:
Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
Hello everyone, Here is one observation I found that was a little interesting.

I hate bringing up past games but it can give a little insight into peoples normal habits. Of the few games I have played with WoW, she has always suggested no lynch for the first day. Since it almost always gives the town an extra day to lynch an anti-town member when you have more information available to you. She has even provided a table to prove it, and that reasoning is completely sound, as it does work in the towns favor.

So why is she pushing to have a forced lynch on the first day? Why force a blind lynch with little to no information and hoping that someone will slip up on a day one. One thing that never really happens.

Not to mention that I am always a little suspicious of people who try and take control of the game early on, which is another thing she is trying to do.

FoS: WoW

This is excellent, exactly the sort of thing I was wondering about but couldn't remember.  I second this. 

My table in the past is based on the idea that there's one mafia kill per night and one town lynch during the day.  So 2 deaths maximum means that the game will end on a certain day regardless of whether or not that first night ends in a lynch.  However, in a game as large this you can't possibly believe there will be only 2 deaths per night.  We have no idea of knowing what day the game will end on thus we don't know whether a "No Lynch" on Day 1 will matter or not.  Making the same assumptions is a bad idea.

Since the last mafia game I played, I've "leveled up" a few times and learned quite a bit more about the game.  Dialog is key, connections are key, and anyone not providing conversation or actively scum hunting is a liability to the town.  Right now hatmoza isn't scumhunting, he isn't helping the town, he's going "Shoot a lurker instead of me just cuz."  Not only does that make him just as bad as a lurker but it scummy behavior in and of itself.

You don't like the lurker plan, say so. But don't mark me as scummy because of that. This is what I have to offer. It's ironic because you want everyone to contribute but you don't consider that contribution.

 



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

hatmoza on 01 February 2010

I like how you are making it seem like I'm causing confusion however, so if I do get lynched and turn up town it wouldn't matter nor bring suspicion upon you because you have had already established that I'm crazy and useless.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Words Of Wisdom on 01 February 2010
hatmoza said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

My table in the past is based on the idea that there's one mafia kill per night and one town lynch during the day.  So 2 deaths maximum means that the game will end on a certain day regardless of whether or not that first night ends in a lynch.  However, in a game as large this you can't possibly believe there will be only 2 deaths per night.  We have no idea of knowing what day the game will end on thus we don't know whether a "No Lynch" on Day 1 will matter or not.  Making the same assumptions is a bad idea.

Since the last mafia game I played, I've "leveled up" a few times and learned quite a bit more about the game.  Dialog is key, connections are key, and anyone not providing conversation or actively scum hunting is a liability to the town.  Right now hatmoza isn't scumhunting, he isn't helping the town, he's going "Shoot a lurker instead of me just cuz."  Not only does that make him just as bad as a lurker but it scummy behavior in and of itself.

You don't like the lurker plan, say so. But don't mark me as scummy because of that. This is what I have to offer. It's ironic because you want everyone to contribute but you don't consider that contribution.

Well who's lurking to you?  You want to shoot a lurker then pick a lurker.



hatmoza on 01 February 2010

As I stated early in the game. I would like to lynch a consistent lurker (based on passed games) but FF and others feel that we judge the lurkers based on the first day.

My choices would have been falcon and dtewi, but lets see how the day goes by.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson