theRepublic said:
That is not even close to what I was saying. Nice strawman.
What I said was the game was initially unbalanced. It became balanced with all the inactive mafia asking to be modkilled.
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Well that's what it looked like by reading your posts, but anyway, that's wrong to because it changed from 1:2 in favor of the mafia to 1:4 in favor of the townies, which made it worse because not only did the townies have numerical advantage, but also they had way more power roles.
theRepublic said:
1- He didn't pick. The players picked themselves.
2- He was pro-town both times. When the town wins, so do ALL pro-town. Even the dead ones. He never lost.
3- Yes, and I have complained about that. And in case I haven't said this yet, both mafia families should have been the same size too.
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1- While this could be a "good" reason, It's just bad for balance's sake. Are you saying that there 2 players that aren't contributing to the game and 1 tells the mod and the other don't, the one that told the mod should be modkilled but the other shouldn't? Even if that's the thing, I'm gonna repeat, Lestatdark and dtewi both told the mod that they couldn't participate in the thread, one got modkilled and the other got a replacement, How's that fair?
2- We never said he lost, we said he was out of the game, and picking him because he posted "I'd glady come back!" It's unfair to the other dead players.
3- There were plenty of details like this and if we are saying them are because we want the game to get better, not we are butthurted.
Final-Fan said:
Now: dsister did not resurrect. He substituted for dtewi in a way that had nothing to do with his previous role in the game. The effect was exactly the same as if he had merely been an interested observer instead of a player for the earlier part of the game. i.e. the fact that he was a former player and had not merely been an interested observer FORMERLY was irrelevant to the integrity of the game.
If you're just upset that he happened to be the lucky one to get to sub in for dtewi and therefore play more than other people whose characters died, then I have to say you're just going to have to deal with the fact that not all people can have that opportunity.
If it's some other reason, I just don't see your rationale here. All I can think of is you're having trouble separating dsister's character (which died AND DID NOT COME BACK) from dsister the person who had that character and later substituted for dtewi in the UNRELATED character of the town's Cop. |
Once again, you are missing the point, we are not complaining because dsister had lost and then was resurrected to win, we are not complaining because dsister had a role and that made him find something and made him replace dtewi unfair, we are complaining because a dead player, (unless it does have a important role) doesn't matter who, came back to replace another player (in an already unfair situation) just because he posted in the thread "Hey I can comeback!", that isn't fair to the rest of the dead players, I'm sure all of them would've glady came back.
We're not blaming anyone, we're not saying anyone sucks, we're not taking this personal, we're just pointing out flaws in the game that must be solved so other players aren't victims of the flaws, which will make a better mafia game for everybody. Stop looking at the comments so specifically and look at it in a general way.