by doctor i meant cop. god damn it.
also, for now unvote:WoW
by doctor i meant cop. god damn it.
also, for now unvote:WoW
trashleg said: well, as a few players are probably aware, from the very start of the game I was suspicious of zexen. then i thought, as did a few others, that zexen or WoW HAD to be mafia. they're the 2 most influential people in this game. i dropped the case against zexen when you said he wasn't mafia, which i mistakenly took to mean you had cleared him. so my attention shifted to WoW, then he threw up this massive roleclaim that nobody had ever heard of before. which was risky, but he's an experienced player so I'm just being careful. Since I found out that zexen isn't necessarily innocent, i want him dead but i'm not about to start throwing random votes out just yet. my money would be on zexen > WoW though. i just installed WoW's ignore user script so i should be able to focus on his posts on my imminent readthrough. i'll get back to you asap.
also, just like everyone else who's voted for me, you have no actual reasons why, and if you were not the doctor i would point the FoS at you for such a scum tell, sir. |
Why would I be getting an "FoS"? I'm at least taking time and listening to your arguments. Why aren't you throwing FoS's at the other people that aren't listening to you. This just sounds like a last ditch effort to make me change my vote.
And one of my major reasons for suspecting you(Which I just remembered from this post). Is that you are too quick to throw away my investigations.
dsister44 said:
Why would I be getting an "FoS"? I'm at least taking time and listening to your arguments. Why aren't you throwing FoS's at the other people that aren't listening to you. This just sounds like a last ditch effort to make me change my vote. And one of my major reasons for suspecting you(Which I just remembered from this post). Is that you are too quick to throw away my investigations. |
well see you obviously aren't getting an FoS, because you are in fact the cop. so that statement was not meant to be taken seriously. im not making a "last ditch effort", i just don't see any reasoning? WoW said Day 1 if you're gonna vote for someone say WHY. WHY WHY WHY. its the most important thing. you seem to have just jumped on the bandwagon.
i am not completely disregarding your investigation results, im just not naive enough to accept them blindly. how does that make me suspicious? i am not questioning your role as cop, i just don't believe that not mafia = innocent (see my previous convo with WoW).
i'm currently reading through everything so be patient with me please, I'm focusing on WoW and I think you'll be surprised with what I've got.
Vote: Trangentspree
His inconsistent style makes me suspicious. Some of his posts have been great, while others have been very 'newbie'. It makes it seem like those have been a ploy.
I would like to see a double lynch from those in the unknown column.
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WoW
Day 1 you were very active..
you questioned absolutely everybody: zexen j0 dsister dgc DaBuddaN Final-Fan
i thought your questions to zexen were evidence of scum buddying, but i see now that you were questioning EVERYBODY, not just him.
I do think that you've been a little bit too deep in your analysis of players though, such as the one you did of me today and this one of SciFiBoy back on Day 1. Reading too much into it, and seeing scummy behaviour that isn't really scummy at all (SFB turned out innocent). (and my point is that scummy behaviour is just behaviour which COULD BE scummy, if even the innocents do it.
I want you, and everyone, to read this though. So far, out of all the people who have voted for me, you are the ONLY one who gave any sort of real reason, even if I don't agree with your analysis (and I'd appreciate your feedback on my reply to your said analysis, ).
You said earlier today (i think, it may have been yesterday real-life time) that this post was a trap for suspicious folk. the only person who I really saw take the bait was axumblade, who i'm really not sure about because he's been mixed in his posting styles. That post also mentioned your distrust of zexen. interesting to note.
zexen doesn't seem to be posting much these days, after being so active the first couple of days. and my suspicion for him has returned since i discovered that he is not necessarily innocent, i had my suspicions that he might be a roleblocker or something but he could be something else, i guess. SK maybe?
Obviously its easy to make a claim based on information you've already been given, but I for one thought this conversation was risky. I can understand why you'd have this discussion with ArkZero, though. I think scum would have been more likely to keep their Doctor suspicions to themselves and gone for a silent night-kill. the fact that the doctor didn't end up dead that night, says something for you. It was quite a subtle conversation but to anybody paying attention it spoke volumes, considering that ArkZero was a n00b (RIP ArkZero).
One thing that bugs me is this post and then this one, only 3 posts apart. But you totally laid into KingFate, even voting him, for saying something very similar to what axum had said.
This post, while it made me wonder, didn't make any sense until your roleclaim. Having just seen it now with fresh eyes, it makes so much sense you sly dog, you. THe Dr obviously targeted the cop, so how come you were still alive? i believed you might have had some roleblocking abilities, but your roleclaim makes sense too. Its just unusual that its a new one.
Basically WoW, i believe you.
(sorry all these thoughts are in the one post, it's late and I'm doing my best.)
also, @Dsister.. what did you say your reason for voting me was again? cos if i recall correctly, it was initally this.
and the reason for my zexen/WoW innocence confusion was this post, made by you. you called him "innocent" rather than "not mafia". as WoW pointed out there is a difference.
i need to go sleep now, i guess i'll either wake up to a well-thought-out lynch of someone else or i'll wake up dead. either way, talk to you all in the morning.
I have a terrible memory just terrible. I originally voted for you because I trusted WoW and you already had the most votes against you . I just didn't want him to be lynched so I tried to make it so he wouldn't have the majority.
And a couple posts later I mentioned about people disregarding my investigations
Well the day's drawing to a close and there's a good chance I won't be here tomorrow, so I might as well give my run down on who I think the town should watch in the coming days. I'll keep this as brief as possible.
Overall I think pretty much everyone (myself included) has been pretty lazy today. A lot of people cautioned that we should be careful who we picked to lynch today because of the potential scum numbers, but only three people within the 'unknown category' have been investigated at all thoroughly - myself, Trashleg and WoW. No one's really put pressure on Axum, Republic, j0, or Falcon which is bad because they've essentially had an easy ride throughout this day.
Falcon
Although I don't like how long his absences have been, when he did post in the past he was a little less wishy-washy than others and somehow he just strikes me as a protown that's lost interest in the game. He could be modkilled if he doesn't contribute more often, but I'm not so suspicious of him.
Axum
He's been a bit sporadic in his posts too, and they have become a bit whaffling and curious compared to earlier in the game. He's caught my eye but not as much as others.
j0
I still suspect j0 very heavily, he never really sticks his neck out to scum hunt, his opinions are always very wishy-washy, and he's demonstrated a tendency to jump on bandwaggons.
TheRepublic
I hate to be that guy, but Falcon hasn't posted in this thread since 02/11/10 19:17 CST on Day Two of the game. His profile says he was logged in today. Could a modkill be considered? |
Interesting development. I suppose that leaves these people as suspects: Axumblade c03n3nj0 Falcon095 trashleg theRepublic trangentspree Discounting myself, that leaves 4 mafia to hide among only 5 people. At those odds, I think we should reconsider the double lynch. |
Vote: Trangentspree His inconsistent style makes me suspicious. Some of his posts have been great, while others have been very 'newbie'. It makes it seem like those have been a ploy. I would like to see a double lynch from those in the unknown column. |
He's become rather reticent recently. I'd actually call his criticism of me ironic because I think we can say similair of him. In the past few days he seemed to put a great deal of effort into his posts that impressed the town, now he seems to have adopted a vulture-like behaviour of just chipping in every so often to encourage getting rid of someone from the game without much else to offer. I think it's possible that now he's earnt some benefit of doubt he's willing to lurk in the background and pick people off.
WoW
So WoW. I really don't buy his roleclaim, I can't believe he has the powers he claims to have because that would break the game. Despite the insights it offers into his behaviour, it still doesn't wash with me that a protown could justify exposing the cop to the rest of the town for any reason so early in the game - it at once put the Doc in the position of being unable to protect anybody else and it also led to Scifi boy's death. In all likelihood I actually think WoW might be our SK.
Forcing the Doc into protecting the Cop means no one would be safe from his own nightkills. Also keeping the Cop alive for a little longer could have led to what would have been a happy scenario for WoW if the Cop had investigated him and found him innocent (as is usually the case with SK's). He seemed to be avidly anticipating as much since the start of the game anyway.
This is in decending order of suspicion so what may be my final vote shall be directed at WoW.
Vote: WoW
[edit - typo]
I agree 100% with trangentspree, it would make sense why he keeps pointing his fingers saying "X" could be a serial killer.
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axumblade said:
Honestly, it's been difficult keeping up with my train of thought earlier in the game so that is probably why my mentality has changed. Initially, I thought the game would last a week (like the games used to last) and now that it's been a whole month, I'm kind of worn out from trying to figure out who is what role. It sounds like a cop out but it's the truth. My accusations earlier in the game were mostly based on me trying to get things to go somewhere (especially with Yesterday and the day before because nobody seemed to want to post). I've also been trying to gage peoples reactions to my statements in the game but few people have even bothered to comment towards my "accusations" that it almost seemed pointless anymore. I'm glad someone is at least trying to think outside of the typical rational even if you are on the chopping block. One of the problems with your statement about WoW is if we keep the doctor's concentration on the cop, that guarantee's that we'll at least have until 1 night after the doctor dies for the cop to investigate people uninterrupted. WoW does have a tendency to think the games through far early in the game so it is very well possible that we could be set up by a serial killer. One of my crazy conspiracy theories was that if WoW were a SK, the first night kill would seem like a hitman or vigilante (only 1 kill per game) and then he just targetted the cop knowing that he wouldn't be killed due to the fact that he's being protected. It seems way too elaborate to be true but if someone could make that scheme work, it would be WoW. |
Which is why we should play it safe, and get rid of him as soon as possible.
PSN ID: KingFate_