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STEKSTAV on 26 January 2010

Being able to play pirated games is a strong sale pitch actually.. im even certain that its one of the big features to why the 360 is popular. Might be my shady group of friends or whatnot, but all 15 of those i know have a 360 have hacked it.

Hell, I even bought mine purely on the fact that you could play pirated games. I go PS3 for serious business and 360 for playing "average" multiplat games that i don't feel warrent a purchase.



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slowmo on 26 January 2010
STEKSTAV said:
Being able to play pirated games is a strong sale pitch actually.. im even certain that its one of the big features to why the 360 is popular. Might be my shady group of friends or whatnot, but all 15 of those i know have a 360 have hacked it.

Hell, I even bought mine purely on the fact that you could play pirated games. I go PS3 for serious business and 360 for playing "average" multiplat games that i don't feel warrent a purchase.


I doubt 15 of your friends have "hacked" their 360.  Flashing the drive firmware to play pirated games isn't really hacked, it still doesn't bypass the security of the 360 allowing you to run unsigned code.  I'm not saying you and your friends haven't got your drive flashed, just your defintion of hacked isn't correct.  The real hacks out there for the 360 right now are really exciting although limited to consoles that haven't had the July 09 update at the moment.



Jin_Shihouin on 26 January 2010

I dunno if this was posted yet, but BBC have interviewed the guy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8478764.stm

Says ps2 BC and pirated copies among other things would be possible.

 

Digital Foundry's take on it:

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3hacked-article



Looking forward to: FF Versus XIII / LBP2 / The Last Guardian / Yakuza 4 / ICO Collection

sieanr on 26 January 2010
Gilgamesh said:
Netyaroze said:
Kasz216 said:
twesterm said:
Gilgamesh said:

One quick little firmware update by Sony will destroy however many hours he put into hacking the PS3. If it's even true.

That's why he hasn't revealed how he's doing it yet though.

Unless it's some security exploit they already know about, there isn't much they can really do until he reveals how he did it.  Of course if they already knew about the explot, you have to wonder why they hadn't fixed it yet.

I'm pretty sure this just files under generic response.  They can't really make him tell them what he's doing so they just get to sit back and wait.

So that when the hackers eventually figure it out... BAM they can slam the door and hackers have to start all over from page 1.


Or at least that's what i'd think.

 

I have posted that before but if this is true current PS3 owners will always be able to hack their systems.

Geohot:

"As far as the exploit goes, I'm not revealing it yet. The theory isn't really patchable, but they can make implementations much harder. Also, for obvious reasons I can't post dumps. I'm hoping to find the decryption keys and post them, but they may be embedded in hardware. Hopefully keys are setup like the iPhone's KBAG."

So for all he knows it could be patchable, doesn't sounds like he was 100% sure that Sony won't find a fix for this. As soon as he makes this public I give it a week until Sony makes the fix, there not going to sit around while people steals games on there console. Again if this is even true.

Sony can patch things all they want, but if he manages to get the keys then its over. There is literally nothing they could do to stop it, because once you have the security keys then you can sign and encrypt any app in the same way Sony signs it, meaning the system wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a valid game and something cooked up by a thirteen year old in his moms basement.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

jonnhytesta on 26 January 2010

homebrew? backups? oh please people want this for piracy thats the only reason . dont make me laught



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SecondWar on 26 January 2010
RareglovE said:
disolitude said:
poroporo said:
Well you can play on Xbox Live with burned discs, so doing the same on PSN should be possible.


can you still? I've seen lots of friends dissapear off xbox live list due to playing burned games when the big ban waive hit.

what i heard is M$ bricks your console if you mod your 360.

$ony would do exactly the same for exactly the same reasons



Jin_Shihouin on 26 January 2010

The guy has now released the exploit:

http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/01/heres-your-silver-platter.html



Looking forward to: FF Versus XIII / LBP2 / The Last Guardian / Yakuza 4 / ICO Collection

Psfan999 on 26 January 2010

Holy shit man! Solid Snake just broke through my window! Sony is assembling an army of hacker hunters! NOW THAT WOULD MAKE A COOL VIDEO GAME!



Kabbam! Bloodwing!

slowmo on 27 January 2010
jonnhytesta said:
homebrew? backups? oh please people want this for piracy thats the only reason . dont make me laught


I'm interested in homebrew for it, stop being so arrogant.  I've had chipped consoles in the past and what I found was I got half the enjoyment I get from gaming now paying for all my games.  The simple fact is that when I used to pirate games I didn't invest as much time in them because I wasn't bothered about getting my monies worth.  I whole heartedly agree piracy is crap, some of the possibilities of homebrew software is very exciting if you're interested though. 

In fairness though if this hack never took the next step to fully unlocking the console I would not care too much as I have my exploitable 360 to enjoy the homebrew fun on. 



STEKSTAV on 27 January 2010
slowmo said:
STEKSTAV said:
Being able to play pirated games is a strong sale pitch actually.. im even certain that its one of the big features to why the 360 is popular. Might be my shady group of friends or whatnot, but all 15 of those i know have a 360 have hacked it.

Hell, I even bought mine purely on the fact that you could play pirated games. I go PS3 for serious business and 360 for playing "average" multiplat games that i don't feel warrent a purchase.


I doubt 15 of your friends have "hacked" their 360.  Flashing the drive firmware to play pirated games isn't really hacked, it still doesn't bypass the security of the 360 allowing you to run unsigned code.  I'm not saying you and your friends haven't got your drive flashed, just your defintion of hacked isn't correct.  The real hacks out there for the 360 right now are really exciting although limited to consoles that haven't had the July 09 update at the moment.

No clue, but you're probably right about the definition.. they've "flashed" the 360 so that they can play downloaded games.