well than i was right you are bias towards classes is showing.

LMAO

Seriously, is it really an argument? People can't have preferences? Classes aren't better than vehicles and vehicles aren't better than classes, it's a simple matter of taste.

Killzone 2 is a perfect game for it's audience, just like MAG, that audience is not mainstream and no where near as big, and I like it that way,

Halo is way more mainstream, and audience is way bigger

does that make either game better than the other, no just a matter of taste, hardcore or casual, take your pic and then stfu about it.

Whooa, this actually looks really good! Maybe they simply didn't had the time to put vehicles in Killzone 2, right? KZ2 is already a great FPS and I am sure that they will put vehicles in Killzone 3 after what you said!

It doesn't matter who went over what, the point is that there are FAR MORE people out there that prefer Halo's mulitplayer to KZ2's. Any time you say something like this you have to understand that it's your opinion, and no matter what points you bring up the fact remains that Halo has more Hardcore, Mainstream and Casual gamers than KZ will ever have.

Personally I prefer Gears over any of these games, but I know it sure as hell isn't for everyone.

uncharted 2 FTW!!!

What U2 has to do with his statement?

While we all know Killzone 3 can't compete with Halo Reach in terms of sales... It could compete (or exceed) Reach in terms of graphics, sound, gameplay, and so on if they make enough improvements.  I'm not saying it will, I really don't know, I think both games will probably be great. I'm saying it could. Killzone 2 already had incredible graphics, sounds, and environment.  What they need to do is improve the controls (enough with those shit controls), increase the color palette, and improve the multiplayer. The maps are just too damn small for 32 players in the game. Drop the multiplayer count to like 16-24 and increase the graphics.

In terms of sales no. In terms of quality I'd say KZ has a big chance considering KZ2 is now AAA+ status so KZ3 shud be an improvement.

Graphics? Probably its a different engine and they have different priorities like 4 player split screen. Sound? No, Bungie are masters of sound between original musical scores and sound effects they devote a lot to this area. Gameplay? Bungie are masters of gameplay and consistantly improving sales of the Halo franchise prove this, subjective yes, however anyone who cares about local play will give it an instant win to Halo and the average 100+ hours multiplayer as well as the consistant place of Halo 3 at the top of the Live charts is a strong indicator of which has the stronger multiplayer.