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PS3 Being Hacked - Good or Bad?

Good: At this point it wi... 40 22.35%
 
Bad: Software sales will go down 106 59.22%
 
I'm not sure 33 18.44%
 
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@impur1ty,
hacks = poor software sales
poor software sales = no developers
no developers = no games
and the psp is a prime example of this, even tho my psp was hacked and i could have any game all of them sucked and there wasnt crap for it that was worth while, now im going about it legit and own a psp go, and just recently has there been anything decent for the system



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@almcchesney
I mostly used my PSP for emulators, and you said it yourself, the PSP games aren't great, so why bother with PSPGo?

The DS, 360 and Wii are all hacked, but you only referred to the PSP. Is it because the latter is faltering?
So it must be the fault of hacks?



Smashed said:
Damnyouall said:
Tridrakious said:
I don't know why people keep talking about with this "hack" story. It's a useless hack.

And any hack is bad for any system.

That is nonsense.

Actually he is right, in the other thread about this someone proves this.

This hack is most likely going to be useless.

 

 

The guy which posted the stuff from the IBM Paper has explained why its hard to hack the PS3 (infact the paper has done it). Geohot is not a nobody HE and Matuielh which hacked the PSP said some other things.

 

Who are you going to believe a nobody or them, Do you think he actualy know more then those guys ? No way they are the best and what he did is quoting informations whith good understanding of the matter, He is nobody compared to them.,

 

So I give you some quotes of the both guys which hacked the PSP and Iphone:

 

 

matieulh:

@geohot yes but the whole security relies on the isolated spu, all the keys are there and it does much more than just decryption and checks, so yes you can manage without hacking them, you can even get rid of them (though I can't guarantee that wont crash the system) but it still isn't hacking the system overall until you get to hack every single part of the console and dump every single piece of hidden code.


In that regard even the psp isn't truly hacked considering the kirk and spock engines have not been dumped.

 

Geohot:

Read your last paragraph in your last comment, and you'll see why I'm right.


You can't expect to know everything and dump every piece of code. This hack is enough for homebrew, full linux, and even backups.

 

 

mathieulh:

geohot it is just a matter of opinion and perspective I suppose, though I mostly like hacking into a system to know more about it and for the challenge than actually running homebrews (though running homebrews is I agree a much more useful goal) In theory of course as long as you run unsigned code on a system you have hacked it, though you can already do that through otheros. 


Of course this is a difference in points of view but I do believe that running your own code in hypervisor mode is still only hacking a part of the system rather than hacking it all because you do not hack into lv2 (at least so far), nor can you get to the loaders, so not all of the system is actually hacked.

Of course this position is merely mine and definitely arguable.

 

 

matiuelh is the sceptic which really understand his stuff but even he agree that ok the PS3 is not fully hacked,licke the PSP but you can do homebrew full linux with GPU support and even backups.

 

 

I dont think this is good I really am worried about this stuff and I hope that hacked PS3s lose their online abilityes.

 

 

The guy who posted this stuff here on this thread has nowhere near the knowledge the both have NO normal person has this. Maybe engineer from Sony.

He has explained why the PS3 is a secured system but those two are hacker their job is it to make things work DESPITE of the barriers.

 

Thats why damnyouall is right.

I can guarantee you NOBODY will come here and has the abilitys to judge the plans of geohot not even mathieulh because geohot is the number 1 its easy as that.

 



he probably hacked the PS3, because he wanted to test his skills ..

I seriously doubt that there will be a hack software/solution "for everyone" anytime soon, so I'm not worried about software sales.



yes ofcourse he did it to test his skills thats the same reason why he hacked the Iphone he is just a classical hacker genius. He dont cares about money. I remember him hacking the Iphone. Noone was able to hack that thing but he a 17 year old made it.

And I too think there wont be a easy solution for everyone and even if there wont be online for such people so it maybe isnt as bad as it sounds.



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It's a horrible thing to do imo.

Sony will ban modded PS3's just like Microsoft has banned over 1 million modded 360 users.



I went and read the PS3's "Online Instruction Manual". Whenever a user creates a PSN account they have to agree to the "Terms of Service, User Agreement form". By doing so Sony gains the right the to moniter your actions with their product.

You have privacy to an extent, but if they see a PS3 that isn't acting right. Whether it's modified or using software that is not made by them or licensed by them, they will shut down access to in online services the PS3 uses and legal action will be taken.

Now I only read the English version, but i'm sure it's the same in all languages.



Tridrakious said:
I went and read the PS3's "Online Instruction Manual". Whenever a user creates a PSN account they have to agree to the "Terms of Service, User Agreement form". By doing so Sony gains the right the to moniter your actions with their product.

You have privacy to an extent, but if they see a PS3 that isn't acting right. Whether it's modified or using software that is not made by them or licensed by them, they will shut down access to in online services the PS3 uses and legal action will be taken.

Now I only read the English version, but i'm sure it's the same in all languages.

 

They can block the online services and whatnot, but obviously the hackers will develop protection from that.

As for the legal action...Sony's "Terms of Service, User Agreement Form" is not a legally binding contract. If you break it they have no grounds to take any legal action. So legal action will not be taken.



How about none of the above?

Being hacked is bad, because, well, software piracy is bad. That's the end of it for me, the effect hacking has on software sales is secondary.



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