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That would mean isupply overestimated not under like you are suggesting! lol.



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Would I be speaking for everyone if I said these numbers look fishy?



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letsdance said:
That would mean isupply overestimated not under like you are suggesting! lol.

Exactly, I'm saying that time they underestimated.  Previous times they overestimated.

It's also funny that the article you posted defeats your other assertion in the thread that Isuppli uses "retail market" data.


They make their assumptions based on what they guess sony pays. (it says in the article.)  Hence why they're always off.



Nobody knows except the console manufacturer itself actually, so I'd take those numbers cautiously...



haxxiy said:
If I recall correctly, that's about what Nintendo was losing on the GC at launch (but of course, Nintendo quickly turned the table and start doing big profits from that cute cube later on it's life).

The next PS3 SKU, which likely will start being produced later this year, should be profitable by a tiny margin at current price point.

Is that a modification of the Slim on the inside, but the case from outside will look the same?



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NJ5, personally how much do u think Sony loses on each $299 Slim?



Slimebeast said:
NJ5, personally how much do u think Sony loses on each $299 Slim?

I don't know. I'm not an expert on hardware or manufacturing. 

I'd say we could be near or at the point where the employees of Sony's gaming division could be a bigger burden than manufacturing costs. Around 5,000 employees at a cost of $100k a year each (not just including salaries, overall costs) means they have to make $500 million a year in revenue just to cover that part.

 



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Keep in mind iSuppli is the same firm that wrote this gem. Their analysis on the Wii is only going to be 40-50 million give or take. Nobody is perfect right?

And BTW, the person who wrote this article is a key analyst for iSuppli to this day.

iSuppli: Wii To Lead Hardware Race In 2008, PS3 By 2011

The firm says the PlayStation 3 in 2011 will account for 35.4 percent of the installed base (38.4 million), while the Wii will take 34.8 percent (37.7 million) and the Xbox 360 will be at 29.8 percent (32.3 million).

 



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Grimes said:

Keep in mind iSuppli is the same firm that wrote this gem. Their analysis on the Wii is only going to be 40-50 million give or take. Nobody is perfect right?

And BTW, the person who wrote this article is a key analyst for iSuppli to this day.

iSuppli: Wii To Lead Hardware Race In 2008, PS3 By 2011

The firm says the PlayStation 3 in 2011 will account for 35.4 percent of the installed base (38.4 million), while the Wii will take 34.8 percent (37.7 million) and the Xbox 360 will be at 29.8 percent (32.3 million).

 


and ioi was half a million off on the ps3 in 2007... lets not listen to him anymore while we're at it.



letsdance said:
Grimes said:

Keep in mind iSuppli is the same firm that wrote this gem. Their analysis on the Wii is only going to be 40-50 million give or take. Nobody is perfect right?

And BTW, the person who wrote this article is a key analyst for iSuppli to this day.

iSuppli: Wii To Lead Hardware Race In 2008, PS3 By 2011

The firm says the PlayStation 3 in 2011 will account for 35.4 percent of the installed base (38.4 million), while the Wii will take 34.8 percent (37.7 million) and the Xbox 360 will be at 29.8 percent (32.3 million).

 


and ioi was half a million off on the ps3 in 2007... lets not listen to him anymore while we're at it.

Half a million, 50 million. It's all the same I guess.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.