@dazmando

the guy my towns GAME shop said they've had more Ps3's sold this month than 360's and almost as much as wii's

media create dont track PAL do they?
Also i'm betting there is an insane amount of spin on it.... like maybe he forgot to tell you he meant the first week only, or is being very non-specific about which parts of Europe [because even if iois numbers are far off reality, we can still be sure in UK and France PS3 sells awfully slowly.... and those two together make up half the Eu market]

i dont trust dazmando.. or carlos for that matter.

Ha, he might just be talking about Sony consoles sold to retailers.

The actual how fast they are selling "Triple and double" are almost definitly to retailers... and well... with X-mas up it would make sense they'd order more consoles

What I didn't understand yet is how their shipment target magically changed from 11 million to 10 million without that being mentioned in their latest financial report.

Doesn't matter much though, that still won't happen (it would imply around 12-13 million consoles sold to consumers by the end of March 2008 - or 13-14 million with the old forecast).

TheBigFatJ

vague figures like 2x, 3x as fast or 200% don't mean anything. 2x what? 2x the sales of the week before the price drop? the day before the price drop? Of course they will find any way they can to make the numbers look good.

It's all simple logic:

3 times 0 is still 0. (Joking)

That's great they're shipping more to retailers, however, selling more consoles than Wii's and 360's to actual consumers is just false. I like how he claims the PS2 is second place. Sounds like he's been spending too much time on SDF's website.

Are you saying you want people to take it for granted that Sony will lie to them?

Guys ,the PS3 is selling more than the X360 since launch in Europe .Thats facts ,no matter what teh data for others show in this page .In fact when ioi gets new data he usually has to do some changes as recently with the France and Spain numbers growing those a 30% ...and probably this happens in all Europe .If you assigned those sales to the correspondant weeks you would see a clear scenario of the PS3 outselling the 360 and probably even the Wii the last weeks .I dont know the rest of Europe but the PS3 in my country since the price drop and 40Gb models is outsold or with 1-2 units in most stores while there are tons of Wiis and 360 out there .

Stop with the "sony lies " thing .Sony cant lie to its shareholders because the directives can be put apart if the shareholders receive news that contradict what Stringer told them .And with people as Gfk mesuring the sales over all the Pal area and releasing them as soon as december/january as they usually do lying is a nonsense short-lived .

But I see you prefer the fanboyish "Sony is lying " to some actual facts as the PS3 selling much more since the price drop .Whatever ,the people will still have the console in their homes even if you dont believe it .