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magik10 said:
mario64 said:

@magik10 : Mmmm what is this meltdown ? Sorry if I offended you, I just pointed facts, which is "NPD is US only" which doesn't give any indication on the worldwide status. I don't see what is fanboyish in reminding people NPD is US only and therefore not so relevant.

On a worldwide scale, Sony PS3 is now very successful since it sells a lot more than its cheaper competitor (millions more in recent months).

Making less and less profit on older models is obvious. Wow I'm so fanboyish when I say all that !

The more PS3 sells, the more PS3 profit will of course make up for that lost profit in PS2... Same thing as the PS1/PS2 transition actually.

If you can't stand people opinions, why do you come in a forum ?

US is the biggest gaming market. You can't just go "but but but WW!!!!" to make yourself feel better anytime you see negative news in one territory or another. Anyone can see the spin and angle you're taking.

 

What he's saying is the PS3 sells badly in NA so it only shows one side of the story like showing Xbox's sales in Japan and others excluding NA



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@Tenkin : Thanks. That's exactly what I meant.




Tenkin said:
magik10 said:
mario64 said:

@magik10 : Mmmm what is this meltdown ? Sorry if I offended you, I just pointed facts, which is "NPD is US only" which doesn't give any indication on the worldwide status. I don't see what is fanboyish in reminding people NPD is US only and therefore not so relevant.

On a worldwide scale, Sony PS3 is now very successful since it sells a lot more than its cheaper competitor (millions more in recent months).

Making less and less profit on older models is obvious. Wow I'm so fanboyish when I say all that !

The more PS3 sells, the more PS3 profit will of course make up for that lost profit in PS2... Same thing as the PS1/PS2 transition actually.

If you can't stand people opinions, why do you come in a forum ?

US is the biggest gaming market. You can't just go "but but but WW!!!!" to make yourself feel better anytime you see negative news in one territory or another. Anyone can see the spin and angle you're taking.

 

What he's saying is the PS3 sells badly in NA so it only shows one side of the story like showing Xbox's sales in Japan and others excluding NA

PS3 isn't as badly as "360 in Japan" anywhere, that's pretty much an incomparable situation.  And honestly, I'd say PS3's doing far, far worse in Japan than America anyway.



@jarrod : yeah in Japan they're only outselling 360 between 10:1 and 30:1 every week, so they're clearly doing bad.

Wait, say what ??

If PS3 is doing bad in Japan, then 360 performance there is utterly laughable and pathetic.



This is an NPD thread, which is US.

Japan is a smaller market and the xbox brand was never big there.

Overall, US sales are more significant just because far more consoles are sold. Japan probably isn't even the second largest country when it comes to video games sales anymore, that may go to the UK.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

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@grimes : last week, Sony sold 90k consoles in the US, 65k in Japan, 140k in Europe. So Europe looks more relevant than the US, and Japan is not so far from the US, at least if we're talking about Sony numbers.

If you talk about Sony numbers and you choose to exclude every country except the one where it's not performing that well, it doesn't make much sense either.

You can hardly exclude Europe / Others where it sells a lot more than in the US.

 



mario64 said:

@grimes : last week, Sony sold 90k consoles in the US, 65k in Japan, 140k in Europe. So Europe looks more relevant than the US, and Japan is not so far from the US, at least if we're talking about Sony numbers.

If you talk about Sony numbers and you choose to exclude every country except the one where it's not performing that well, it doesn't make much sense either.

You can hardly exclude Europe / Others where it sells a lot more than in the US.

 

I believe I just mentioned the UK the #1 country in Europe and #2 in the world for video games. And I never excluded Europe or anywhere else, so don't put words in my mouth. All I said that US was far more substantial than Japan when it comes to video game sales.

 



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

@Grimes: I don't put any word in YOUR mouth, I'm talking about this article, this thread, explaining why it doesn't make sense at all in my opinion.

My point about this Gamasutra article is they're taking NPD numbers and use it to conclude something about the PS3, while as I just showed, the US is not at all Sony PS3 main market, since it sells a lot more elsewhere...

 



Well we all knew Sony weren't doing so great anyway, financially. Still, down a billion, ouch...



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hkthui said:
letsdance said:
Lol you guys are hilarious.

Before price cut? Everything points in Costs lowered > Price lowered.

Nordlead - Your right. I'm still in WW mode as given by total units shipped. But Sony still lowered cost by billions this year WW.

Grimes - So what? Costs of not manufacturing Ps2's and PSP + Lower costs of manufacturing the Ps3 + Raised SW sales + 1.3 billion already scattered through 3 of 4 quarters = good enough for me.

Apparently, you have no idea on how sales forecast and supply chain work.

The PS2s and PSPs were already manufactured based on Sony's forecast. Due to poor PS2 and PSP sales, those units are probably sitting in Sony's  warehouse right now. However, Sony already paid for those units to be made but cannot not sell them to retails. Hence, they may face a huge loss this quarter. We will see.

Well technically i believe they can write those off as "assets" until they eventually sell.

Or write them off as "depriciation of assets" if they don't see before they have to cut prices.

Still, the damage control is pretty intersting.