Agreed - and I would add a third false assumption - that all third parties are unhappy with their sales on the Wii and have decided to stop any effort on it (at least in some cases the quotes from companies like Capcom and Sega have been from minor people in the company, not the decision makers, and have been distorted/blown out of all proportion - and not by Wii fans).

I think there are a lot of misconceptions on this thread. I, for one am happy with the content on the Wii and see no reason to purchase an HD console to play any game. However, i do think 3rd parties should make more effort on the Wii, if only to give me the OPTION to broaden my gaming horizons. Also, i don't think any 3rd party have any reason to moan like babies when their sub-par efforts aren't getting the sales they feel their "efforts" deserve on the Wii. This attitude is what pisses the Wii owners more than anything else. To their moaning it only needs to be said:- "put a decent amount of effort into your Wii games and make games that actually take advantage of the interface then you will see decent sales and will win over the annoyed element of the userbase."

There is nothing worse than taking people to be ignorant and stupid, which is what i feel 3rd parties are doing with the Wii userbase.

Exactly. Nothing more to say here.

See I don't own Sony stock and I don't get a cut of every PS3 that is sold so as long as I get the games I want, the rank of the console in sales is kinda irrelevant. Heck Sony is even nice enough to sell the console at a loss to reduce my expenses....

vaio said: Ail said: vaio said: the bitterness of PS3 trolls in this thread is hilarious What do we have to be bitter about ? If you feel youre one of them take a pick last place maybe or the need to troll a Wii forum discussing the fracked up behaviour from 3rd parties against wii owners? what ever floats your boat, either way you guys have nothing in this thread since your not contributing or even own a wii See I don't own Sony stock and I don't get a cut of every PS3 that is sold so as long as I get the games I want, the rank of the console in sales is kinda irrelevant. Heck Sony is even nice enough to sell the console at a loss to reduce my expenses....

PS3-Xbox360 gap : 5.7 millions and going down !

So why the SIG that says that. SO you do care about market share and console total sales. You proved his point with your sig. > 

Now to the post I wanted to make.

I'll just say this! Something fishy is going on!

During the PS2/GC/Xbox Era.
Soul Calibur 2 was made for the GC/PS2/Xbox. Even though it sold the most on GC because of Link. The Xbox had the superior technical version. With the PS2 version being the inferior version. Namco decided to make SC3 only for PS2. I wonder why maybe because of the install base. Ok so if it's about money why not do the same for the Wii. Which is now almost 30 million systems ahead world wide.
Instead SC4 goes to the PS3/360. Ok yes the Wii can't handle the HD graphics. So it will not get the same exact game. Yet it gets nothing even close. A poor quality action game. SC Legends.
Why not make a Soul Calibur game on the same scale as Part 3 for the PS2. The Gamecube was stronger the the PS2, and the Wii is stronger the Gamecube. So why not give a good old college try and make something happen. They use the whole there is no audience for that game on the Wii move. To justiy not even attempting to do so.
The whole time the Wii compared to the standards of the HD systems.
Those same developers will still make DS games that is separate from the PSP. Not holding each other to standards of the others. The poor Wii which is a different system compared to the HD systems. Still if it can't do what they do. It deserves nothing at all.

So now this comes up.
The make a Soul Calibur game for the PSP. Which is the most hacked system on the market. Sales for shit in the US. Yet the are willing to take the time. Plus use resources to make a game from scratch. They might not make it's money back. With all that they are willing to try, and not bitch about. When things goes wrong.
How many other games on the HD systems didn't do as good as they wanted. Yet seguels where made for the HD systems.
Burst Limit has done under 1 million on both HD systems. In this day in age if a game does under a 1million is a failure. That's how Wii games get treated. So then the make Raging Blast for them. Which is selling at a slow pace. Still a poorly made Wii game that under sales. Is reason not to make any more Wii games ever again.

Wii Gamers want the fair chance that every one is else is getting, but it's not happen.

That is a point. This is a Nintendo discussion, yet PS3 owners are commenting in here and stirring things up. If they are not being bitter, what is their purpose for visiting this thread? Perhaps they find it amusing, stirring things up. What reason do they have visiting a Nintendo thread about 3rd parties, otherwise?

You can single out a bunch of failures on HD consoles (which the PSP isn't...), but that won't change the big-picture fact that the HD model, and their HD investments are making them more money than their Wii model and Wii investments.

All the third parties are doing is stating that they are changing their Wii model (more titles, lesser money) to be more like the HD model (less titles, bigger money), or in some cases, that they are just dropping the Wii model, because they don't know how to target the Wii demographics, or if they even can be targetted beyond a few select genres.

This actually seems to be exactly what "forum Wii" owners have always wanted.  I'm surprised that people are even complaining.

Do you have the exact figure of how many people are paying to play the game online, I mean to make the assumption you just did you must have it, otherwise you are just DELUSIONAL.

So franchise was unable to capture an expanded audience before, is released on a portable system and finds an Massive Fanbase, New Main entry of the franchise is made on another system that doenst share the inherent qualities of the Portable System that made it unique = product selling 3 times less than spinoff on the portable system.

Games Dont exist in a vacuum, I compared Monster Hunter 3 the spinoff on the PSP and the 2+ year old game is currently more popular than the 6 months old game(Monster Hunter PSP is outselling monster hunter 3 even when monster hunter 3 is sold at bargain bin prices). It doesnt means that Monster Hunter 3 is selling poorly, what it means is that the type of game that monster hunter is has proven to be more successful in order of magnitudes on the PSP and by comparison makes the Monster Hunter WII entry look pathetic.

Ok, PSP version makes MH3 look pathetic. So what? It makes Metal Gear Solid 4 look pathetic too, but it doesn't make either into a failure in Japan.