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It's much better to go for one good card than two weaker ones, just as many programs don't scale on multiple cores, some games don't scale well on multiple GPUs. And some even manage to do worse with multi-GPU setups.



Wii/PC/DS Lite/PSP-2000 owner, shameless Nintendo and AMD fanboy.

My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
WD Caviar Black 750 GB, WD Caviar Black 1 TB
Display: Triple ASUS 25.5" 1920x1200 monitors
Sound: HT Omega Striker 7.1 sound card,
Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Input: Logitech G5 mouse,
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard
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It just seems like once you get into the $400-range, your RoI starts to plummet compared to a $200 card. Am I wrong?



Your Rol?

Either way, when it comes to multiple cards, you also have to keep in mind that it'll most likely use more power than one, generate a lot more heat, and you're also going to end up with half the VRAM you pay for going unused (two 1 GB cards will only yield 1 GB usable memory, not 2, for example).



Wii/PC/DS Lite/PSP-2000 owner, shameless Nintendo and AMD fanboy.

My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
WD Caviar Black 750 GB, WD Caviar Black 1 TB
Display: Triple ASUS 25.5" 1920x1200 monitors
Sound: HT Omega Striker 7.1 sound card,
Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Input: Logitech G5 mouse,
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard
Wii Friend Code: 2772 8804 2626 5138 Steam: jefforange89

Return on investment. "Bang for your buck", if you prefer

And I meant a single 200-dollar card in my last post



Oh, that's an *eye*, not an *ell*. >_>

Ultimately, it depends on the card, I guess. Generally speaking, though, there's always a premium on flagship models.

Right now, with the ATi 5000-series cards, there's a bit of a gap between ~170$ and ~350$, but there's a rumoured card launching in like two weeks that'll fall right between the two, which would probably be what you're after in that case.  There are other older options, but I'd personally go for the newest stuff, so that you get DX11 support and what not.



Wii/PC/DS Lite/PSP-2000 owner, shameless Nintendo and AMD fanboy.

My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
WD Caviar Black 750 GB, WD Caviar Black 1 TB
Display: Triple ASUS 25.5" 1920x1200 monitors
Sound: HT Omega Striker 7.1 sound card,
Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Input: Logitech G5 mouse,
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard
Wii Friend Code: 2772 8804 2626 5138 Steam: jefforange89
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Khuutra said:
jefforange89 said:

What're you planning on doing with it, just for email/web/office/etc. or for gaming, or video editing or something as well?

Also, what price are you looking at?

Gaming

She said to me, two grand, but I think I want to aim for more like 1500 including monitor and OS

The "more power" build in the OP will give you the best high-end price:performance ratio for your money in terms of gaming, and probably only cost around $1200-$1300 with Windows 7 and a decent monitor. Anything more than that is just wasted money. Otherwise, if you want to save even more, you can buy mid-range + OS + monitor for about $1000 and put the rest of your money away for upgrades a couple of years down the line.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

Khuutra said:
It just seems like once you get into the $400-range, your RoI starts to plummet compared to a $200 card. Am I wrong?

Yes. The boundary shifts a bit though, I'd say above a 5850 is poor ROI this time. And it always depends on what your performance needs are.



Just an FYI for those of you going the Athlon II X3 route: You may want to wait a few days before ordering. Today, AMD released, among other new CPUs, the Athlon II X3 440, which offers a slight clock-speed bump over the 435 (3.0 GHz vs 2.9) at the same price. It has yet to show up on Newegg, but when it does I'll update the OP.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

Is there any reason to go higher than 4GB of RAM right now?



Khuutra said:
Is there any reason to go higher than 4GB of RAM right now?

If you're just using your PC for gaming, then nope. The only reason that you'd need more than 4 GB is if you're running some sort of RAM-intensive scientific modeling software or something.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom