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At this stage, would you buy into Natal?

Yes, would buy a 360 for Natal 9 7.56%
 
Yes, already own a 360 and would get Natal 27 22.69%
 
No, already own a 360 / no interest in Natal 27 22.69%
 
No, not interested in 360 or Natal 56 47.06%
 
Total:119

Software would be necessary for the majority of people to want to get it. We will have to wait and see what MS has in store after E3.

As for me, I am definitely getting it. I want to fool around with it with XNA(I hope they provide XNA support).



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My question, will the "Not interested in 360 or Natal" option pass 60%? Currently at 48%.

Interesting, interesting, interesting. VGChartz doesn't lean PS3 at all. . .

 

Edit: May have spoken too soon, only 48% "not interested in 360"



Oh, and I will let Oonsk say something:

 



supercat said:
jarrod said:
supercat said:
Natal will be a hyped up Eyetoy, and (probably) fail within a year or two. Any Natal exclusive games will probably only be offered by XBL anyway.

No, downloadables is Sony's plan for Gem.  Microsoft's putting their priority on retail releases.

Most retail games will cost $59.99 b/c of distribution, packaging, marketing, required for retail games.  I dont think that people will pay $59.99 for a casual.  Or, they could just charge $30 for a decent casual on XBL, and not make retailers risk buying into something that might take a while to get up to speed.   

 

The choice in this decision is obvious.

Most casuals don't buy games online.  Yet they didn't seem to mind paying $90 for Wii Fit en masse.

For the market they want, Microsoft's definitely making the smarter choice.



lol that was a horrible comparison. I'm sure that this $90 wii fit comes with a balance board, doesnt look like that would be a good idea with natal games, b/c MS is planning several games for it.  Also, which console's market do you think would be better for casuals, Wii's or 360's?   0/10 for compaison, jarrod.

So, we are back to paying $59.99 at retail for just a game, OR something more reasonable by XBL. Also, for retailers to carry natal games, the natal HW will have to sell big time, and that is iffy. I honestly dont think that most retailers would carry more than 5 or 6 Natal titles on stock, so if 75% of the publishers are making something for Natal, it's obvious that MS will be pushing them to put this on XBL, as it is the lowest cost lowest risk option for retail and developers.



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supercat said:

lol that was a horrible comparison. I'm sure that this $90 wii fit comes with a balance board, doesnt look like that would be a good idea with natal games, b/c MS is planning several games for it.  Also, which console's market do you think would be better for casuals, Wii's or 360's?   0/10 for compaison, jarrod.

So, we are back to paying $59.99 at retail for just a game, OR something more reasonable by XBL. Also, for retailers to carry natal games, the natal HW will have to sell big time, and that is iffy. I honestly dont think that most retailers would carry more than 5 or 6 Natal titles on stock, so if 75% of the publishers are making something for Natal, it's obvious that MS will be pushing them to put this on XBL, as it is the lowest cost lowest risk option for retail and developers.

Again, the causal market seemingly has no issue paying full price retail.  Wii Fit might come with a Balance Board, but it's still $90.  Wii Sports Resort, EA Sports Active, Just Dance... these games all sell fine at $50 or more.  Casuals seemingly have less issue with full pricepoints than the core audience considering how comparably well successful casual and bridge games hold their MSRPs. 

Casuals will never buy stuff off PSN or XBLA though, and at that point publishers would be selling to a minority (XBL members) of a minority (Natal owners).  You can only dig down so far, XBLA would definitely be the more "risky" option.



Fine, if you say that people dont care about paying $59.99 for what most people would consider a $30 game, then that is fine. You do however realize that MS doesnt really have a casual audience though, right?



supercat said:
Fine, if you say that people dont care about paying $59.99 for what most people would consider a $30 game, then that is fine. You do however realize that MS doesnt really have a casual audience though, right?

Well, obviously now.  But that's what they're targeting Natal at, and I don't see how a lineup of downloadables would in any way further their inroads to casuals?

That's why Sony's Gem strategy is so baffling.  The thing's destined for failure if they don't change course.



supercat said:
Fine, if you say that people dont care about paying $59.99 for what most people would consider a $30 game, then that is fine. You do however realize that MS doesnt really have a casual audience though, right?

Well, obviously now.  But that's what they're targeting Natal at, and I don't see how a lineup of downloadables would in any way further their inroads to casuals?

That's why Sony's Gem strategy is so baffling.  The thing's destined for failure if they don't change course.



They are both destined for failure. You cant make a pie for a person that likes cake, then expect them to buy some $50 contraption that will be useful only pies, and then force retailers to sell these pies that only can be eaten after the contraption is bought.

I'm sorry, but Natal has several factors against it.