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Forums - Sales Discussion - World Wide Sales UP!! PS3 > 500K, Wii > 800K!

BrandonM said:
Brennan said:
PS3 sales exceeds 360 sales by 200k, congrats to Sony !

Looks like Sony fans were right... again.

Wii sales exceeds PS3 sales by 300k, congrats to Nintendo !

Looks like Nintendo fans were right... again.

I'm pretty sure most of the Sony fan and 360 fans expected that too... I mean most people were saying how the Wii could easily top a million again this week weren't they?




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mibuokami said:

I'm pretty sure most of the Sony fan and 360 fans expected that too... I mean most people were saying how the Wii could easily top a million again this week weren't they?

No, most were saying it might make 900K, but 1 million wasn't reasonable.



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BrandonM said:
Brennan said:
PS3 sales exceeds 360 sales by 200k, congrats to Sony !

Looks like Sony fans were right... again.

Wii sales exceeds PS3 sales by 300k, congrats to Nintendo !

Looks like Nintendo fans were right... again.

Even "doomed" PSP sales exceed 360 sales by 40k, congrats to Sony and booh to MS !

Looks like 360 fans were wrong... again.



CGI-Quality said:

Bottomline, it still moved hardware, and a significant amount (19-25%), which close to nobody expected. My point: if an up and coming IP can move hardware, a known, big one, with the same momentum still present can as well. Sure it's speculation, but hardly out of place.

In fairness, the reason people didn't expect *anything* is because there'd been a long trend of mega-hyped 1st party product that'd failed to move significant hardware on PS3 (Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, inFamous, etc).  The real differentiating factor in UC2's case seems to be the $299 Slim, 

And honestly, given the sorts of resources funneled into UC2, the sales aren't even impressive imo, certainly not significant.  A 20k weekly bump, in just one region (sales actually dropped UC2 launch week in EU/JP by nearly 15k), that wasn't sustained, isn't really much to crow about when looking at the larger picture. It's actually pretty sad considering all UC2 had going for it.



Carl2291 said:
darthdevidem01 said:

PS3 has more system sellers than 360 this year, like in 2008, but a price cut changes everything

I think 360 may even outsell PS3 in 2010!

I wonder what Sony have planned to counter Natal/Cut.

My bet is on colours and/or $50 cut.

My guess would be that Sony will use this years E3 as a major platform to launch their whole 3D angle on the PS3. I would expect small bits of information to leak out over the year with a couple of demonstrations and then a large showing at E3 with some compatible games. I doubt they will want to cut the price again this year (and I doubt they need to with the current sales trends) and so this could be there best way of stealing hype from Natal. 3D is all the rage at the minute and a big E3 showing could really get the mainstream media behind the PS3 and deflect some of the attention from Natal without having to compromise pricing.

No doubt we'll also see more wand games but I think we have to admit that the press won't take to that like they will Natal (or hopefully 3D).



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CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

Bottomline, it still moved hardware, and a significant amount (19-25%), which close to nobody expected. My point: if an up and coming IP can move hardware, a known, big one, with the same momentum still present can as well. Sure it's speculation, but hardly out of place.

In fairness, the reason people didn't expect *anything* is because there'd been a long trend of mega-hyped 1st party product that'd failed to move significant hardware on PS3 (Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, inFamous, etc).  The real differentiating factor in UC2's case seems to be the $299 Slim, 

And honestly, given the sorts of resources funneled into UC2, the sales aren't even impressive imo, certainly not significant.  A 20k weekly bump, in just one region (sales actually dropped UC2 launch week in EU/JP by nearly 15k), that wasn't sustained, isn't really much to crow about when looking at the larger picture. It's actually pretty sad considering all UC2 had going for it.

Uncharted 2 has done more than it was expected to. Everything else is irrelevant. The game will do at least 4 million, 1.5 million more than it was expected to do. Like I said, what those other games did/didn't do is irrelevant, that was in a different time under COMPLETELY different circumstances. NONE of those franchises are a proven one like God of War is, so they're not comparable. Uncharted JUST became a proven franchise.

My point was very simple though, if Uncharted 2 can move hardware, then God of War III certainly will. I'm not sure why this seems to be shocking to people, we knew before the release of Uncharted 2 that GOWIII would probably move units. God of War III would have been a system seller before the $299 and Slimmer model. They're now just the icing on the cake.

Expected by who exactly?

And I disagree about "everything else is irrelevant" and also with your claim that the other games were "unproven".  Resistance 1 and Motorstorm 1 were HUGE sellers upfront, but their biennial sequels fizzled.  Uncharted 2 moved a sum total of 5k additional hardware worldwide it's launch week.  Sure, that's something, but not really something significant.  If anything, I would say that UC2 moved an insignificant amount of hardware.

I tend to think GOW3 will do much better, and March will be up a ton in March thanks to GT5 in Japan alone, but to be frank, I'm not basing any of that off UC2's middling performance.  It's not proof of anything really, expect that Sony can spend with the best of them. 



Whats the margin of error on Vgchartz hardware? + or - 10%? Anything which falls within that range is probably just noise. It would be like saying that the poll results were up 2% on a poll with a 3% margin of error. Statistically noone ought to pay any attention to it, its just noise on the graph.

Smooth out the sales of the PS3 to 2 week periods to remove noise and put a pointer saying this is where Uncharted 2 entered the market and you'd probably see nothing of significance.

If we keep changing the meaning of system seller to ever lower quantities of hardware it really dilutes the meaning of the words. So in the future do we go:

Uncharted 2 is a system seller.

Metal Gear Solid is a system seller.

Halo 3 is a system seller.

Wii Fit is a system seller.

 

Wii Sports is a system seller.

and just keep increasing the size of the text. maybe next year we can say:

God of War is a system seller.




damn no effence but the 360 is hopeless in sales




WilliamWatts said:

Whats the margin of error on Vgchartz hardware? + or - 10%? Anything which falls within that range is probably just noise. It would be like saying that the poll results were up 2% on a poll with a 3% margin of error. Statistically noone ought to pay any attention to it, its just noise on the graph.

Smooth out the sales of the PS3 to 2 week periods to remove noise and put a pointer saying this is where Uncharted 2 entered the market and you'd probably see nothing of significance.

If we keep changing the meaning of system seller to ever lower quantities of hardware it really dilutes the meaning of the words. So in the future do we go:

Uncharted 2 is a system seller.

Metal Gear Solid is a system seller.

Halo 3 is a system seller.

Wii Fit is a system seller.

 

Wii Sports is a system seller.

and just keep increasing the size of the text. maybe next year we can say:

God of War is a system seller.


lol!  You've gotten my point across better than I ever could have. <3



No doubt, like Uncharted 2, GOW3 certainly has the chance to (barely) move hardware. I don't think anyone's really contesting that now.