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Sqrl said:
stof said:

Before taking the private school route, come on over to Korea and look at the hagwons (private academies). It's a great system for pandering to parents, but when it comes to kids getting a solid education... Well... That rarely ends up being the best way to pander to the parents.

 

I know my statement isn't in regard to textbook selection or ideology pervading the classroom, but still, private school systems are NOT the way to go.

I don't know if there are enough parallels that you can really draw the conclusion that the conditions that cause failures there exist in the US.  This is particularly so when private schools, and specifically the school voucher system, have been extremely successful in the US at bringing test scores up for students in the public schools. 

It is also worthy of noting that they do it at literally a fraction of the cost. The example of the DC voucher program being an instance where expenditures per student were halved for voucher students and they saw significant test score increases.  Of course that program was cut off over the past few months despite its tremendous success...or perhaps because of it?  I'm not sure if I'm that cynical just yet, but it certainly seems suspect in the absence of some justification...but I digress.

I agree, the voucher system was an astounding success, it convinced me that it was most certainly the way to go. One would assume that (hopefully) they repealed it in DC in order to begin initiating the system nationwide, because the logistics of a nationwide program would be vastly different to that of a city wide program.



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highwaystar101 said:
Sqrl said:
stof said:

Before taking the private school route, come on over to Korea and look at the hagwons (private academies). It's a great system for pandering to parents, but when it comes to kids getting a solid education... Well... That rarely ends up being the best way to pander to the parents.

 

I know my statement isn't in regard to textbook selection or ideology pervading the classroom, but still, private school systems are NOT the way to go.

I don't know if there are enough parallels that you can really draw the conclusion that the conditions that cause failures there exist in the US.  This is particularly so when private schools, and specifically the school voucher system, have been extremely successful in the US at bringing test scores up for students in the public schools. 

It is also worthy of noting that they do it at literally a fraction of the cost. The example of the DC voucher program being an instance where expenditures per student were halved for voucher students and they saw significant test score increases.  Of course that program was cut off over the past few months despite its tremendous success...or perhaps because of it?  I'm not sure if I'm that cynical just yet, but it certainly seems suspect in the absence of some justification...but I digress.

I agree, the voucher system was an astounding success, it convinced me that it was most certainly the way to go. One would assume that (hopefully) they repealed it in DC in order to begin initiating the system nationwide, because the logistics of a nationwide program would be vastly different to that of a city wide program.

I hope you're correct but I have my doubts. Surely it would make more sense to enact a repeal concurrently with the enactment of the national program?  But then I wouldn't want it said that I thought our government made sense

Given my general ignornace of the detailed workings of most european governments I tend to take your word that they operate more efficiently, particularly given the difference in scope and size of their operations. But sadly for us here in the US efficiency is something our government seems to adeptly avoid.  I personally believe the aversion is driven by corruption that infests all facets of the system, but then that is sort of like saying the sky is blue.



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