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intro94 on 05 January 2010
Garcian Smith said:

You mean a two-year-old, second-rate port didn't expand the Wii's core market? Gasp! Shock!

I think the sales of Silent Hill: Shattered Memories are more telling. That game pulled 100k in America in three weeks, while its sister game (Homecoming) sold only 200k lifetime in the same territory on the 360. And Shattered Memories is even more of a niche title than Homecoming.

It's said in every thread like this, so I'll say it here first: Core games sell on the Wii if they're what the core market wants. The core market doesn't want more rail shooters or half-arsed ports; it wants games like SH:SM.

i concur, even tho i did enjoy Dead space as well as Darkside(for the fan service which is plentiful), i ALSO own Silent Hill.And heck madworld.And reflex, yes, it has its cons, but is so much fun even as it is. it deserves to do so good. Konami made a bet  on the wii and at least its returning better than 360 did back then. And i already feel the confidence that No More heroes 2, after years of positive word of mouth, will outperform NMH 1 very nicely. Quite probably outsell the HD remake at it.



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Soma on 05 January 2010
Garcian Smith said:

You mean a two-year-old, second-rate port didn't expand the Wii's core market? Gasp! Shock!

I think the sales of Silent Hill: Shattered Memories are more telling. That game pulled 100k in America in three weeks, while its sister game (Homecoming) sold only 200k lifetime in the same territory on the 360. And Shattered Memories is even more of a niche title than Homecoming.

It's said in every thread like this, so I'll say it here first: Core games sell on the Wii if they're what the core market wants. The core market doesn't want more rail shooters or half-arsed ports; it wants games like SH:SM.

 

And let's not forget that Silent Hill had 0 advertising (correct me if I'm wrong), and few copies were sent.



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Procrastinato on 05 January 2010

You guys realize that being a 2-year-old port is not really a big deal, considering that both this game and WaW would obviously be purchased on another platform, if it were available. Its not old if it wasn't available, no matter how long the wait.



 

Ail on 05 January 2010

And meanwhile MW2 has already outsold CoD4 LTD sales by over 1 million..



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Arius Dion on 05 January 2010
Procrastinato said:
You guys realize that being a 2-year-old port is not really a big deal, considering that both this game and WaW would obviously be purchased on another platform, if it were available. Its not old if it wasn't available, no matter how long the wait.

But wasn't the excuse of Bioshock being a late port the reason why the PS3 version flopped?

@Ail..What does that have to do with anything?



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Procrastinato on 05 January 2010
Arius Dion said:
Procrastinato said:
You guys realize that being a 2-year-old port is not really a big deal, considering that both this game and WaW would obviously be purchased on another platform, if it were available. Its not old if it wasn't available, no matter how long the wait.

But wasn't the excuse of Bioshock being a late port the reason why the PS3 version flopped?

@Ail..What does that have to do with anything?

I dunno.  We don't really know the number of dual HD console owners, or the propotion of PS3 owners, at that point, who were really "gamers" likely to buy a shooter, as opposed to people who wanted, and could afford, a good BD player.

I still think my supposition is mostly true.



 

Davey1983 on 05 January 2010
Procrastinato said:
You guys realize that being a 2-year-old port is not really a big deal, considering that both this game and WaW would obviously be purchased on another platform, if it were available. Its not old if it wasn't available, no matter how long the wait.

Actually, I bet several people would take the Wii version over the HD versions if they were both available.

For MW, I would take the Wii version over the HD version any day.  Yes, the graphics are inferior, but the controls are just that much better on the Wii.  It is quite telling when I am playing MW2 (on my buddies Xbox) that I wish it had Wii controls (I also had this problem with RE5-- the game would be so much better with Wii controls).



vaio on 05 January 2010
Davey1983 said:
Procrastinato said:
You guys realize that being a 2-year-old port is not really a big deal, considering that both this game and WaW would obviously be purchased on another platform, if it were available. Its not old if it wasn't available, no matter how long the wait.

Actually, I bet several people would take the Wii version over the HD versions if they were both available.

For MW, I would take the Wii version over the HD version any day.  Yes, the graphics are inferior, but the controls are just that much better on the Wii.  It is quite telling when I am playing MW2 (on my buddies Xbox) that I wish it had Wii controls (I also had this problem with RE5-- the game would be so much better with Wii controls).

same here on both those games



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averyblund on 05 January 2010
vaio said:
Davey1983 said:
Procrastinato said:
You guys realize that being a 2-year-old port is not really a big deal, considering that both this game and WaW would obviously be purchased on another platform, if it were available. Its not old if it wasn't available, no matter how long the wait.

Actually, I bet several people would take the Wii version over the HD versions if they were both available.

For MW, I would take the Wii version over the HD version any day.  Yes, the graphics are inferior, but the controls are just that much better on the Wii.  It is quite telling when I am playing MW2 (on my buddies Xbox) that I wish it had Wii controls (I also had this problem with RE5-- the game would be so much better with Wii controls).

same here on both those games

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bazmeistergen on 05 January 2010

@Ail: MW is a big seller and MW2 is even bigger, but it is a mainstream game not simply a core one. The core market is a bit of an illusion really. Many people that buy the big 'core' IPs are casual players that will drift away from gaming. There is such a thing as a teen and 20 year old casual market. They might not buy Wii Fit but they do buy GTA and COD.



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