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OK...I have been noticing for a while now that some people claim the 360 did not get an "real" price cut, and it didn't really get a price cut, and it didn't get an official price cut...etc

But, what I don't understand is that, how can something that previously cost $399, and now costs $299, not get a price cut to get down there. The 360 elite is $100 cheaper than it was before. So, again I ask, why do so many claim the 360 didn't get a price cut, when, the $100 difference in price says otherwise.

Now, I know a while ago, Naznatips (don't know if I spelt that right), made a thread detailing rules about "exclusives" on the forums, and I'm wondering if he did something similar about the 360 getting a price cut. But, if no admin did this, then I really think people should stop saying the 360 didn't get a "real" price cut.

 

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/press/2009/0827-pricedrop.htm

This link is directly from xbox.com, and it clearly says "price drop"....so how is this not real or official ???



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when people consider the price of the consoles they are usually talking about the cheapest possible price. If you have a price drop that changes one of your higher end models to be cheaper but does not change the price of your cheapest model then it will not have that much of an affect on sales and therefore people deem it as not a "real" price cut.

There definitely was a price cut, but it won't have the affect you would expect from a price cut that lowered the cost of the cheapest model.



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Easy.

What was the entry price for 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2009 = $299
What was the entry price for a 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2010 = $299


What was the entry price for 360 with 256 MB internal memory on January 1st 2009 = $199
What was the entry price for a 360 with 512MB internal memory on January 1st 2010 = $199

The prices stayed the same, the memory increased. Too difficult?



RAZurrection said:
Easy.

What was the entry price for 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2009 = $299
What was the entry price for a 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2010 = $299


What was the entry price for 360 with 256 MB internal memory on January 1st 2009 = $199
What was the entry price for a 360 with 512MB internal memory on January 1st 2010 = $199

The prices stayed the same, the memory increased. Too difficult?

MS are liars for calling it a pricedrop.



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kowenicki said:
psrock said:
RAZurrection said:
Easy.

What was the entry price for 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2009 = $299
What was the entry price for a 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2010 = $299


What was the entry price for 360 with 256 MB internal memory on January 1st 2009 = $199
What was the entry price for a 360 with 512MB internal memory on January 1st 2010 = $199

The prices stayed the same, the memory increased. Too difficult?

MS are liars for calling it a pricedrop.


marketing... the Elite recieved a price drop... the experience didnt.

that answer made me smile.



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ok..first lets go with kowenicki - i didnt say i expect moderation, im asking if there was some that i didnt hear about that made it a rule to not call the elites pricecut a pricecut, and i didnt hear about it. And your asking "who" says it didnt get a pricecut? you hav 10K+ post on this site, i have a little over 10, and i hav seen at least 4 diff people, in one thread alone say "the price cut was not real" and "the price cut was not official", so im willing to bet, you ureself hav had the "pleasure" of seeing a few of these people also.

Torrillian-you made it very clear that there was no ruling, and the point is the elite is $100 cheaper than it was before...duznt matter if it wasnt as "effective", as something else. these ppl flat out say there is no "real" pricecut, which is a rather incorrect thing to do.

and now RAZurrection...umm...with "a hard drive"...plz..what was the entry price of "the elite" on jan 1st 2009, $399, what was the entry price of the elite on jan 1st 2010, $299 - difference $100. dnt try and twist things to appear as they do not...

and even still...the storage increased...so...if i buy car x for y dollars and sumone else buys car x+1 for y+1 dollars, but later on a third person buys car x+1 for y dollars, and car x is discontinued...ure saying, that car x+1 didnt get a price cut, because the difference between car x and car x+1, was the paint job and automatic vs manual windows ???



kowenicki said:
psrock said:
RAZurrection said:
Easy.

What was the entry price for 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2009 = $299
What was the entry price for a 360 with a Hard Drive on January 1st 2010 = $299


What was the entry price for 360 with 256 MB internal memory on January 1st 2009 = $199
What was the entry price for a 360 with 512MB internal memory on January 1st 2010 = $199

The prices stayed the same, the memory increased. Too difficult?

MS are liars for calling it a pricedrop.


marketing... the Elite recieved a price drop... the experience didnt.

well said, although as an aside MS did market it as a price drop.

also, it's really here nor there because it's pretty obvious when you look at the holiday sales numbers that real driver of holiday 360 sales was not as much the elite pricedrop so much as the very real (albeit temporary) walmart price drops.



Maybe in the USA the prices stayed the same, but right now the 360 Pro goes for 200 euro with 2 games of your choice, a year ago the same deal was 300 euro. Also the Arcade model goes for 130 euro with two stupid games but that used to be 200 euro a year ago.



"On the other hand, Microsoft's new model pricing strategy has done almost nothing to move its average price. Whereas the average Xbox 360 sold for $260 in August, the same hardware sold for $261 on average in September."

 

Apparently the discontinuation of the Pro unit and replacement by the Elite actually increased the average price of an Xbox 360 by $1. So MS did lie, it's actually a price increase.



Basically they are giving more hard drive space for the same money. They probably figured Elite was the better name and kept that one.