I also liked these posts.

As for the problem with jobs, I must say that this is related to global immigration. Immigration has been a classic trend in the USA, but recently (more or less) a lot of countries in Europe are suffering this phenomenon, because is MASSIVE.

Pro-immigrants say that immigration is cool (because of the beloved multiculturality) and that immigrants take the jobs that natives don't want to get, but that's not exactly true.

The thing goes like this (just an example):

- Mr. Bagles needs an employee for his shop.

- He offers the lowest salary he can.

- A native won't get this job since he/she wants a fair salary.

- An immigrant happily gets the job PLUS he/she has a repulsive servile attitude towards Mr. Bagles PLUS he/she doesn't demand his/her labour rights as a native does.

- Mr. Bagles is happy because he gets a cheap, "loyal" worker.

- Voilà! Natives only want superclassy jobs and "thank God" for the immigrants that take the dirty jobs we don't want to do and blah blah blah...

That's pretty unfair. Media and politics manipulate truth in order to create a collective false consciousness based upon politically correct, trendy and contemporary values. Those who want to preserve the identity of their countries and their rights are not able to freely express themselves.

That's sad.

FootballFan said: Immigration has been the biggest problem to ever hit America. The genocide of the natives by killing their food supplies, and it was people mostly from England who did it.... Its horrible to think that a race that was situated there has (virtually?) been wiped out. One mainstream political party wants to impose a cap on the number of foreign nationals entering the country, i think this could be a good idea but it still doesn't tackle the massive birth rates the people of non Europesan origin have in this country.

I think you're confusing the American continent with the United States.

Immigration has actually been incredibly beneficial for the U.S., and it's one of the big reasons we're so powerful today. Not to mention that our immigrants are rarely extremists, and our birthrate is generally at the replacement rate.

@Montana: I think he was meaning the earlier wave of immigration.

Which wave of immigration? Is he referring to colonists?

@Montana: That's how i read it.

Okay, but taking them and generalizing them over hundreds of years of immigration from hundreds of different countries is just silly.

No it isn't, these so called "extremists" take everything out of context. As a muslim I know suicide bombing is totally haram (Forbidden) it always says respect the laws of the land you live in. Because 0.001% decide to become some sort mis-concieved freedom fighters doesn't mean the religion is used to create tensions. Most genuine muslims know to respect any other religions, in the end we are all acounted for our sins and deeds.

@Montana: Yeah, it's a little different. Though, it works as an example if immigration isn't the friendly type.

@Kamal: But doesn't martydom award you with 77 virgins in heaven and the only law a muslim needs to respect is the law from god?

The religions can create tensions and does. Im not talking about Islam specifically, im talking about all Religions as a whole. If Britain was totally Islamic im sure there wouldn't be a problem. What im trying to say is whenever there is religion there are going to be extremists. Partly to do with religion being individual interpretation of a book (most religions) Its then people use this excuse to commit acts of terror. Lets say that it is a small percentage of religious believers that casuse these problems, thats still a large number when you consider it only takes a few people to destroy thousands of lives and affect millions. Arghhhh....tricky situation.

@Montana

I was talking about the initial movment of Europeans to America. The onces from Britain and Ireland. I do understand that a country of America's size and wealth of natural resources needed mass immigration to fill the roles. America likely wouldn't be the superpower it is today if it didnt have the amount of people. However, the way the original Americans were dealt with was unacceptable. It was genocide.

I see what your saying but that could be said for any other situation, everyone views differ and that creates tension. Like Millwall fans and West Ham their never going to gel together well. Or other forms of extremist views such as racism and homophobia, it only takes one nut job to cause trouble.