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Falcon095 on 13 January 2010
nordlead said:
Falcon095 said:
dsister44 said:
Falcon095 said:
dsister44 said:
Falcon, who did you target?

Nordlead

Does he have a power?

Yep, and I think he should talk more about it

yes, I do have a power. I will claim that my role has not been mentioned in this game once in any way shape or form that I can think of. So that rules out, bus driver, blocker, doctor, cop, cult, mafia (and mafi combo's), black mage, red mage, blue mage, green mage, white mage, dragon, knight, knights apprentice, summoner, serial killer and vanilla townie. If I left any out, just add it to the list. As a final note, if I do roleclaim it will only hurt the town. If my roleclaiming could clear/convict someone I would.

@hatmoza

this game has been far more confusing than most other games due to large arguments taking days, while game days also last days. You still didn't answer why you only question ME about scifi instead of others.

Can you at least say what it has to do with?



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Final-Fan on 13 January 2010
c03n3nj0 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Final-Fan said:
SciFiBoy said:
I was cursed by someone >_>

OK, I say we wait for SAK to show up before completing any lynches, and if he didn't curse SFB then we lynch SFB.  (dsister said he cursed TOS.)

Why would we lynch SFB if SAK didnt curse him?

Well, he's the only other curser that we know fo right now.
But, there's a huge chance that there's more. So It seems kinda weird that he's willing to immediately lynch SciFi like that. 

I don't think there's a "huge" chance, and in fact I think that it's extremely unlikely considering that nobody else has reported more curses than SAK and dsister can account for.  Unless there's a huge number of unreported cursees, then I call bullshit on SFB if SAK didn't curse him, which IIRC he just said he didn't.  I'll double check that shortly.  



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SciFiBoy on 13 January 2010
Final-Fan said:
c03n3nj0 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Final-Fan said:
SciFiBoy said:
I was cursed by someone >_>

OK, I say we wait for SAK to show up before completing any lynches, and if he didn't curse SFB then we lynch SFB.  (dsister said he cursed TOS.)

Why would we lynch SFB if SAK didnt curse him?

Well, he's the only other curser that we know fo right now.
But, there's a huge chance that there's more. So It seems kinda weird that he's willing to immediately lynch SciFi like that. 

I don't think there's a "huge" chance, and in fact I think that it's extremely unlikely considering that nobody else has reported more curses than SAK and dsister can account for.  Unless there's a huge number of unreported cursees, then I call bullshit on SFB if SAK didn't curse him, which IIRC he just said he didn't.  I'll double check that shortly.  

are you deliberatley ignoring all my posts today?

ive said like 3 times now that im almost certain that whoever cursed me was anti-town and did so to make it look like im lying



Final-Fan on 13 January 2010
dsister44 said:
hatmoza said:
@dsister

the way I understood it from FF is that ... shoot let me just give an example (and by no means am I trying to intimidate the dragon )

say you used it on me. Dragon attacks me, both you and the dragon die? ... and I live?

It just says that my monsters and I will die. Nothing about the targeter dieing 

I already asked WoW about this, and what I understood from his reply was that the attacker dies, as I said in my roleclaim post at http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3045839&page=17&postnum=38

I suppose he told you something like 'if your target is to be killed you will die instead' which I believe means "instead of your summon target" and not "instead of the killer".  

If you're a Paranoid Gun Nut, your targeter dies, period.  It's just a question of whether you die too.  (But the PGN analogy is mine, not WoW's.)



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hatmoza on 13 January 2010
nordlead said:
Falcon095 said:
dsister44 said:
Falcon095 said:
dsister44 said:
Falcon, who did you target?

Nordlead

Does he have a power?

Yep, and I think he should talk more about it

yes, I do have a power. I will claim that my role has not been mentioned in this game once in any way shape or form that I can think of. So that rules out, bus driver, blocker, doctor, cop, cult, mafia (and mafi combo's), black mage, red mage, blue mage, green mage, white mage, dragon, knight, knights apprentice, summoner, serial killer and vanilla townie. If I left any out, just add it to the list. As a final note, if I do roleclaim it will only hurt the town. If my roleclaiming could clear/convict someone I would.

@hatmoza

this game has been far more confusing than most other games due to large arguments taking days, while game days also last days. You still didn't answer why you only question ME about scifi instead of others.

because you focus on dumb stuff (like what you're doing now) but something as questionable as SFB's situation, which happens to be the heart of discussion, you let off the hook. which makes me suspicious of you, that's all. It's not like anyone's listening to me anyways.

first my writing, and now I'm not allowed to ask you questions ...



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hatmoza on 13 January 2010

@nordlead
as Truck said to me, you're gonna have to dig deeper



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Final-Fan on 13 January 2010
SciFiBoy said:
Final-Fan said:
c03n3nj0 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Final-Fan said:
SciFiBoy said:
I was cursed by someone >_>

OK, I say we wait for SAK to show up before completing any lynches, and if he didn't curse SFB then we lynch SFB.  (dsister said he cursed TOS.)

Why would we lynch SFB if SAK didnt curse him?

Well, he's the only other curser that we know fo right now.
But, there's a huge chance that there's more. So It seems kinda weird that he's willing to immediately lynch SciFi like that. 

I don't think there's a "huge" chance, and in fact I think that it's extremely unlikely considering that nobody else has reported more curses than SAK and dsister can account for.  Unless there's a huge number of unreported cursees, then I call bullshit on SFB if SAK didn't curse him, which IIRC he just said he didn't.  I'll double check that shortly.  

are you deliberatley ignoring all my posts today?

ive said like 3 times now that im almost certain that whoever cursed me was anti-town and did so to make it look like im lying

Are you deliberately ignoring what I'm saying?  

If the roleblocker that got you is anti town, then why would this be the first time we're hearing about him?  Why didn't he roleblock anyone in N1 or N2?  N2 is the only night that he could possibly have wasted his block on a corpse (the dragon kill).   

I think the simpler explanation is that you're lying, rather than that the blocker somehow just decided not to block on the earlier nights.   



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hatmoza on 13 January 2010

^ plus, I really doubt WOW gave 2 mafia members a blocking role. It just doesn't add up.



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TruckOSaurus on 13 January 2010
Falcon095 said:
hatmoza said:
ahh f it!
Unless someone comes forwards and says they blocked SFB, I'm voting him today.

Vote for him already then, since I dont think the roleblocker is pro town (if it exists, that is)

I'm 90% sure we have another roleblocker. If we look at the start of day 2, we had two reported curses, one claimed by SAK and we later learned theRepublic could curse also. Since the Dragon failed to kill on the first night, we can assume there's another blocking role out there (pro or anti town we don't know).

My 10% is based on the off possibility that the Dragon can't kill on odd nights.

Also, you said you investigated nordlead last night, who did you check on night 2?



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Final-Fan on 13 January 2010

IMO, whatever stopped the dragon on N1 and N3 (last night) are the same thing and therefore the roleblocker didn't do it on N1. Probably.

On a different note, IE was just getting fucking ridiculous so I switched to Google Chrome with no trouble so far. Also I just noticed I'm late for work.

Vote SciFiBoy.



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