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I have to agree this does cast at least some doubt over Hatmoza's role claim, be interesting to see what he says and who he targeted

im guessing theyre are either more mafia left or another evil faction



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SciFiBoy said:
okey dokey kids
tonight I can choose from these:
Nightkill (from mafia man son1x)
Curse (vetteman the black mage)
now the interesting one from j0j0 - I can mark someone, and then PM WoW when I want that person to die, the marked person also cant use there power against me

nordleads power is apparently one that doesnt pass on, so im still as much in the dark as anyone on what he did

OK, now this is really good intel right here.  IMO nordlead not giving you a power backs up hatmoza's story a little bit.  Remember that nordlead was a "retired knight in hiding".  This could mean that he wasn't "activated" yet by the Knight's death, so he wouldn't have any powers yet, which is why SFB didn't get anything.  But the most reasonable explanation for that is that ANOTHER person inherited the Knight powers, who hasn't died yet -- i.e. hatmoza.  

Good news for hatmoza, bad news for us -- because with THREE anti-dragon roles, this dragon must be one hell of a beast to slay.  ...Or maybe the dragon has backup?? 

Regarding the Dark Siren -- cool power, but not too useful at this point for you IMO, you might as well just nightkill.  UNLESS.  If the mark protects you against kills the same night you mark the killer, then it would protect you against the Dragon who you probably couldn't kill anyway.  And if you do die, we know that person isn't the dragon.   [edit: or whoever killed you anyway.]

I don't suppose you can use j0's marks, but it's worth asking.   



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Is there anybody left from our kill list yesterday.

I know DabuddaHn was on it. Anybody else?



Final-Fan said:
SciFiBoy said:
okey dokey kids
tonight I can choose from these:
Nightkill (from mafia man son1x)
Curse (vetteman the black mage)
now the interesting one from j0j0 - I can mark someone, and then PM WoW when I want that person to die, the marked person also cant use there power against me

nordleads power is apparently one that doesnt pass on, so im still as much in the dark as anyone on what he did

OK, now this is really good intel right here.  IMO nordlead not giving you a power backs up hatmoza's story a little bit.  Remember that nordlead was a "retired knight in hiding".  This could mean that he wasn't "activated" yet by the Knight's death, so he wouldn't have any powers yet, which is why SFB didn't get anything.  But the most reasonable explanation for that is that ANOTHER person inherited the Knight powers, who hasn't died yet -- i.e. hatmoza.  

Good news for hatmoza, bad news for us -- because with THREE anti-dragon roles, this dragon must be one hell of a beast to slay.  ...Or maybe the dragon has backup?? 

Regarding the Dark Siren -- cool power, but not too useful at this point for you IMO, you might as well just nightkill.  UNLESS.  If the mark protects you against kills the same night you mark the killer, then it would protect you against the Dragon who you probably couldn't kill anyway.  And if you do die, we know that person isn't the dragon.   

I don't suppose you can use j0's marks, but it's worth asking.   

ah, good theory, that does make lots of sense

true theyre could be a backup dragon, or more interestingly, maybe the beast laid an egg?

it protects me from the "mark" from the start of the next day for the rest of the game

no I cant use j0's marks



Final-Fan said:
SciFiBoy said:
okey dokey kids
tonight I can choose from these:
Nightkill (from mafia man son1x)
Curse (vetteman the black mage)
now the interesting one from j0j0 - I can mark someone, and then PM WoW when I want that person to die, the marked person also cant use there power against me

nordleads power is apparently one that doesnt pass on, so im still as much in the dark as anyone on what he did

OK, now this is really good intel right here.  IMO nordlead not giving you a power backs up hatmoza's story a little bit.  Remember that nordlead was a "retired knight in hiding".  This could mean that he wasn't "activated" yet by the Knight's death, so he wouldn't have any powers yet, which is why SFB didn't get anything.  But the most reasonable explanation for that is that ANOTHER person inherited the Knight powers, who hasn't died yet -- i.e. hatmoza.  

Good news for hatmoza, bad news for us -- because with THREE anti-dragon roles, this dragon must be one hell of a beast to slay.  ...Or maybe the dragon has backup?? 

Regarding the Dark Siren -- cool power, but not too useful at this point for you IMO, you might as well just nightkill.  UNLESS.  If the mark protects you against kills the same night you mark the killer, then it would protect you against the Dragon who you probably couldn't kill anyway.  And if you do die, we know that person isn't the dragon.   [edit: or whoever killed you anyway.]

I don't suppose you can use j0's marks, but it's worth asking.   

So, in a nutshell, you think there were 3 Knights in this game? Doesn't that seem like a bit much? Your theory does make sense as to why SFB didn't inherit powers, or, maybe, his powers just couldn't be passed on? 

I guess we have to wait for Hatmoza to get back here and interrogate him a bit, to see if something spills. 



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So, in a nutshell, you think there were 3 Knights in this game? Doesn't that seem like a bit much? Your theory does make sense as to why SFB didn't inherit powers, or, maybe, his powers just couldn't be passed on? 

I guess we have to wait for Hatmoza to get back here and interrogate him a bit, to see if something spills. 

Well, not three knights as such, but three potential knights.  For instance, assuming hatmoza is telling the truth, we had the original knight, and hatmoza who would get the knight powers if the knight died, and nordlead who would get the knight powers if both the knight and hatmoza died.  



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dsister44 said:
Is there anybody left from our kill list yesterday.

I know DabuddaHn was on it. Anybody else?

Dgc1808 was slated to die at one point, and TOS was included in the "rabble".  hatmoza was going to investigate TOS last night.  



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Final-Fan said:
DaBuddahN said:
So, in a nutshell, you think there were 3 Knights in this game? Doesn't that seem like a bit much? Your theory does make sense as to why SFB didn't inherit powers, or, maybe, his powers just couldn't be passed on? 

I guess we have to wait for Hatmoza to get back here and interrogate him a bit, to see if something spills. 

Well, not three knights as such, but three potential knights.  For instance, assuming hatmoza is telling the truth, we had the original knight, and hatmoza who would get the knight powers if the knight died, and nordlead who would get the knight powers if both the knight and hatmoza died.  

So according to your theory, Hatmoza became the Knight when MakingMusic died?



SciFiBoy said:
it protects me from the "mark" from the start of the next day for the rest of the game
no I cant use j0's marks

In that case, unless you somehow don't suspect anyone when night falls, you should probably just use the mafia kill.  (Publicly IMO, in case you target the dragon and it doesn't die and you get killed.)  [edit: for the public option, obviously you'd say before nightfall...]



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DaBuddahN said:
Final-Fan said:
DaBuddahN said:
So, in a nutshell, you think there were 3 Knights in this game? Doesn't that seem like a bit much? Your theory does make sense as to why SFB didn't inherit powers, or, maybe, his powers just couldn't be passed on? 

I guess we have to wait for Hatmoza to get back here and interrogate him a bit, to see if something spills. 

Well, not three knights as such, but three potential knights.  For instance, assuming hatmoza is telling the truth, we had the original knight, and hatmoza who would get the knight powers if the knight died, and nordlead who would get the knight powers if both the knight and hatmoza died.  

So according to your theory, Hatmoza became the Knight when MakingMusic died?

Pretty much.  I mean he's still a Squire, but before MM476 died he did nothing, and after that he did exactly what the Knight had been doing.  At least this is how it usually works, and IIRC it's what hatmoza himself said.  You don't remember any of this?  



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