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nordlead said:
Vetteman94 said:
Dgc1808 said:

Me role will really hurt the town.

Your role hurts the town?   Or are you saying role claiming would hurt the town?   Role-Claiming would in no way hurt the town since we have ways of protecting people who are important.  So.........  I guess I am saying you should role-claim and tell us everything you did during the game

here is the conundrum with roleclaiming. You don't want to provide the scum with more information then they already have, however you do want the town to know what you are. If you're unimportant and roleclaim, all I do is help the scum target the important people. Say you have 5 pro-town unknown people and you have a cop & doctor. If you roleclaim townie, all you did was tell the mafia they now have a 1/2 chance of killing an important role rather than a 2/5.

So using myself and the current situation as an example, while we already had a bunch of power roles make claims, maybe I'm more powerful than those already claimed, or maybe I have a protective ability. Does the scum want to take a shot at me? If I'm a useless townie (for example what if I was a 1 shot vig who got blocked), they wasted a night killing someone they could have easily handled later, while right now they have to deal town organizing a giant power strike with a confirmed unknown role. Currently, the bigger threat is to SAK, who is the only confirmed protective role.

so ultimately, roleclaiming can sometimes cause more harm than good. You never want to roleclaim townie (instead you should claim pro-town), but you also should never lie about your role.

But see, here's the thing.  SAK isn't the only one.  dsister and I can BOTH protect people.  Yes, if it's a killer then we die, but SO DOES THE KILLER.  Not exactly a deal for the scum, is it?  



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either vetteman felt the pressure of me going after him tonight and came up with that brilliant role claim, or J0 is trying to save his own.

Maybe they are both black mages...



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c03n3nj0 said:
hatmoza said:
This is getting crazy and I have a theory of the possibility of 2 dragons, because WE HAD SOMEONE FROZEN! I completely forgot about that.

I think the two dragons are a faction (and this is me being my crazy self with crazy ideas) an Ice dragon. And that is why there was a backup to the knight!

Tell me if that sounds crazy.

It does.

I was the one who froze Seraphic, you know, having magic n' all. I can do stuff with my wand.  

 

@ dsister, if you did get the powers then I guess my theory is void >_>

if he did it raises the question: WHY did your block on F-F not work?



Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Why would you think there was another Black Mage?   I doubt that WoW would overload the Town with that many power roles.

I'm going by the amount of nightkills on night 2

Yeah that makes sense, no one claimed the kill of theRepublic

It could easily have been me.  Falcon's role was public at that point and I protected him.  I doubt I'd get notified if my summon made a kill.  

"I am a Summoner. My ability basically confers Paranoid Gun Nut status on a person for that night. If he is targeted by a killer then he lives and I die (along with the killer)."

your role claim ^


you say that it could have been you, HOW? you would have died if it was?



SciFiBoy said:
dsister44 said:
SciFiBoy said:

read the quoted posts in F-F's post

dsister said he cursed TOS, dsister also said he gained no new powers - but if F-F targeted him shouldnt he have gained F-F's powers? if both tell the truth?

this gets more and more intriguing as time goes by, I really wanna know what they have to say

WoW, forgot to send my PM. She said it here in the thread. I then got the message a second later. Final-Fan was not blocked 

elaborate, you got F-F's powers? can you then confrim what they are? why take so long to say if this is true? (didnt WoW say the PM's were sent some time ago?)

I have said it several times. 

Here right after WoW mentioned the forgotten PMs: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3046001&page=87&postnum=5 

Here is another time: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3046921&page=92&postnum=3 

I mentioned it a third time, but I don't think it is worth pulling up



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Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Why would you think there was another Black Mage?   I doubt that WoW would overload the Town with that many power roles.

I'm going by the amount of nightkills on night 2

Yeah that makes sense, no one claimed the kill of theRepublic

It could easily have been me.  Falcon's role was public at that point and I protected him.  I doubt I'd get notified if my summon made a kill.  


but wouldnt you die then too?  Or at least Falcon would have died



SciFiBoy said:
Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Why would you think there was another Black Mage?   I doubt that WoW would overload the Town with that many power roles.

I'm going by the amount of nightkills on night 2

Yeah that makes sense, no one claimed the kill of theRepublic

It could easily have been me.  Falcon's role was public at that point and I protected him.  I doubt I'd get notified if my summon made a kill.  

"I am a Summoner. My ability basically confers Paranoid Gun Nut status on a person for that night. If he is targeted by a killer then he lives and I die (along with the killer)."

your role claim ^


you say that it could have been you, HOW? you would have died if it was?

I think I roleclaimed a bit better. If I were to summon monster to protect you and then you were targeted by a blocker or a medic then the ones that targeted you will die.



dsister44 said:
SciFiBoy said:
dsister44 said:
SciFiBoy said:

read the quoted posts in F-F's post

dsister said he cursed TOS, dsister also said he gained no new powers - but if F-F targeted him shouldnt he have gained F-F's powers? if both tell the truth?

this gets more and more intriguing as time goes by, I really wanna know what they have to say

WoW, forgot to send my PM. She said it here in the thread. I then got the message a second later. Final-Fan was not blocked 

elaborate, you got F-F's powers? can you then confrim what they are? why take so long to say if this is true? (didnt WoW say the PM's were sent some time ago?)

I have said it several times. 

Here right after WoW mentioned the forgotten PMs: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3046001&page=87&postnum=5 

Here is another time: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3046921&page=92&postnum=3 

I mentioned it a third time, but I don't think it is worth pulling up

ah, okay, I missed that, that clears you both but still leaves the question: why did j0's role block not affect final-fan?




dsister44 said:
SciFiBoy said:
Final-Fan said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Why would you think there was another Black Mage?   I doubt that WoW would overload the Town with that many power roles.

I'm going by the amount of nightkills on night 2

Yeah that makes sense, no one claimed the kill of theRepublic

It could easily have been me.  Falcon's role was public at that point and I protected him.  I doubt I'd get notified if my summon made a kill.  

"I am a Summoner. My ability basically confers Paranoid Gun Nut status on a person for that night. If he is targeted by a killer then he lives and I die (along with the killer)."

your role claim ^


you say that it could have been you, HOW? you would have died if it was?

I think I roleclaimed a bit better. If I were to summon monster to protect you and then you were targeted by a blocker or a medic then the ones that targeted you will die.

oh, okay, that makes sense, I just wish F-F had made that more clear in his role-claim



again @ Final Fan & Dsister

does F-F role mean he is immune to being blocked? as j0 claimed to have blocked him?