alright, we all have our different opinions. I would however, never think of handhelds and home consoles as being in the same market.. imo it's an unfair comparison. it is highly unlikely to see a family with 3 kids having 3 PS2s connected to their television set, but you could easily picture the same 3 kids with their own DS while on family vacation. if you can't see this as anything other then anecdotal, then I have nothing more to say =) i see this as obvious.

or let's say guys living together in the college dorms or in an apartment. they are more likely to share home console. you read it on forums all the time: "I have a X360/PS3/Wii on my dorm, so I don't need to buy one for myself". however, how often do you see: "i'm living together with a guy that has a DS so I don't need to buy one for myself"? IMO two similar devices, but still operating in VERY different markets. handhelds are not considered as direct competitors to home consoles for a reason. why don't people talk about the DS or PSP when talking about X360/PS3/Wii?? because they're not relevant in the home console picture. therefore I believe without a doubt that the handheld market and home console market should be considered as two separate markets.

for instance, even though a bit different, i do not consider cell phones and regular phones being in the same market. still they deliver the same services and cater to people who want a phone. or what about laptops vs stationaries? same market? NO IMO!

No other past handheld has beaten the ps2 in sales so why isnt that big....and also I do believe the wii will beat the ps2 also as it is tracking above it in aligned sales but it only will if nintendo doesnt pull the plug on the wii for another 5 years.

opinion is just another way of saying ignorance.

get facts///

fact of the matter is that the each generation, home consoles have been the dominate force in the gaming industry.

Combined sales of major home consoles have outsold combines sales of major portables.

This is the first time that portables have led the industry.

first time they have been dominate// (thanks mainly to nintendo but still to some extent sony)

This is the first time a portable will outsell the leading home console of the generation preceding it.

the DS is a first of many.

it was beat around when it was announced.

it was marked as a failure.

and yet it has manaaged to do beat nearly every videogame industry record even in light of competition.

so yes it is relevant that the DS is about to become the biggest gaming console in history, home or portable.

this whole bull story that multiple ps2 werent in a single house hold is stupid!

Do we all forget that the Ps2 was marketed as  the CHEAPEST WAY to have A DVD PLAYER?

i dont know about you, but i dont have just one DVD player in my household.

oh and what about the failure rate?

i remember reading about plenty stories about the ps2 burning out and not being able to read disks, mine incluided.

and after it burnt i am sure many people bought another one.

and like the DS, many people bought a new ps2 when it was redesigned.

my household owned 3 ps2's at one point in time. i think many households owned multiples.

thanks/ end rant//

alright, we all have our different opinions. I would however, never think of handhelds and home consoles as being in the same market.. imo it's an unfair comparison. it is highly unlikely to see a family with 3 kids having 3 PS2s connected to their television set, but you could easily picture the same 3 kids with their own DS while on family vacation. if you can't see this as anything other then anecdotal, then I have nothing more to say =) i see this as obvious.

or let's say guys living together in the college dorms or in an apartment. they are more likely to share home console. you read it on forums all the time: "I have a X360/PS3/Wii on my dorm, so I don't need to buy one for myself". however, how often do you see: "i'm living together with a guy that has a DS so I don't need to buy one for myself"? IMO two similar devices, but still operating in VERY different markets. handhelds are not considered as direct competitors to home consoles for a reason. why don't people talk about the DS or PSP when talking about X360/PS3/Wii?? because they're not relevant in the home console picture. therefore I believe without a doubt that the handheld market and home console market should be considered as two separate markets.

for instance, even though a bit different, i do not consider cell phones and regular phones being in the same market. still they deliver the same services and cater to people who want a phone. or what about laptops vs stationaries? same market? NO IMO!