Again, not to keep being a shill for NFS, but after playing that game in 1st person, I feel the bar has been raised.  I don't want to play a racing game anymore unless it's in 1st person, and I certainly don't want it to look/handle bad like it does in GT5.

For some reason, I agree. At least the menus are clean (nice zoom feature for SDTV users), but the gameplay itself was questionable. I thought it played like an arcade racer, with the tuned car or not.

I know the game is releasing in a little while, so I have hope this demo for the GT Academy is nothing like the real game (from what I've heard from the defense force). I really don't want to skip on this game so I'll probably buy it anyways, but I hope the end result will be groundbreaking for the racing genre, as in not trying to keep up with other racing games. GT used to set the benchmark, let it be this way again?

Also, the physics won't change because it's on a blu-ray. It will change because they fixed them along the run, not because it was a 200mb software running from the PS3.

Well, I think this whole demo thing was really stupid and Im sure it wasnt intended for the 'Average Joe Gamer.' There is already amazing footage of GT5 on the net showing how fantastic it looks visually (see TGS City racing for example.) Who knows, there could be a 'proper' demo out in spring nearer release, but you really shouldn't have doubts. Hell, prologue is still the most realistic looking racer out for me (car wise, not environments) and from the footage Ive seen they've improved on it quite a lot.

I've played dozens of demos.

The graphics in the retail release NEVER improve on what the demo looks like. If this did, it would be the first game in history to do so.

And it will be.

why am i having a deja vu?

wasn't there the exact same thread like 5 times already?

why do people act like there has never been any gameplay video of GT5 and insist that GT-Academy represents the full game?

and it is a simulation, not an arcade racer.

It's called ignorance (no offense to anyone).

Seriously, this is just meant to display the physics engine, not to marvel at the graphics (that's going to wait until a future demo or the final release). I know it's misleading, but 200 MB? Come on.

No, it won't be. :P

Yeah I find it funny those talks about "arcade racer" from people who never drove a racing car on a track in their life while the physics in the GT Academy challenge are maybe the most realistic ever seen in a video game according to real pilots and specialists.

Now talk about the graphics on the track, ok this track is boring (as it is in real life actually) and I agree PD should have released another one (for exemple the wonderful Tokyo track you saw on TGS videos), but it's in no way a 'GT5 demo'.

But please, don't talk about the physics if you don't know anything about that.

I'll be cooking some crow then.