I like Berserk a lot, but I still like Ubel Blatt more.

*double thumbs up*

Haha and comparing characters from different "universes" is silly. They have different "laws of nature" so to speak.

@Matt

What?! you dont like comparing characters from different universes?!

thats the absolute reason it's awesome being a nerd.

Haha but they follow different rules and laws of nature. In one story, a character can be punched by a girl and go flying into space. Those girls > Gatts then, his strength doesn't even compare to their strength.

since when did this become a DBZ power level contest?

just joking XD. but in all seriousness, I think Kamal was comparing the "coolness factor" of the characters which if you ask me, Guts wins by a mile. The dude chopped off his own arm in order to stab a demon god in the face. you cant get much more hardcore and badass than that.

P.S I just figured out how to use the smileys properly

I don't know, I like Gatts, but I feel Koinzell is a 'deeper' character. They both have a lot of depth but I feel Gatts is simpler, and I don't find him as cool. But Id is on a whole different level. He's beyond cool haha.

Where did this come from?

I really believe at time the revenge seems more authentic for Gatt's compared to koinzell, you can feel after the Eclipse arc that Gatt really has no purpose of living then to kill Griffith and every single damn demon that's out there. I really don't see a good ending for Gatt's after Griffiths eventual death (Lets see) I can't see him move on.

Okay lets compare Koinzell was betrayed he totured was killed so was 3 of his comrades.

Gatt has seen every member of his band of the hawks as sacrficial lambs (This is like a army of 60 strong) who he considers his bethrens this was done by the person he admired, thats is only half of it after that his finance was raped infront of him after being nailed down by demon's losing his right eye (The last image he seen with it) and a arm which he cut himself to get to Griffith. The changes between Koinzell and Gatt's are evident but I think Gatt's is where more focused and shows utter blood-lust for revenge.

G-Value comeback to me when you finished reading volume 14 of Berserk or even at all.

No, I mean why are you comparing the two mangas in the first place? All we said is that Ubel Blatt is awesome and all of a sudden you come out and say Berserk is better then Ubel Blatt and that Guts is better then Koinzell when we did not even bring up Berserk. That came out of nowhere. Anyways, I believe that Koinzell's revenge mission is very deep. Especially whenever he confronts them. He starts remembering the close relationship and respect he had for them and seeing how things turned out because of their greed and jealously is really something.