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Actually Ninjadan... that's not what the majority of people think... but ok.

As Rath said... Monetarist is still the dominant school of thought.

 

That there was a Depression... caused by the free market.

However what made it "great" was the government and the Fed.

Depressions are natrual.



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Rath said:
@Kasz. Thats the monetarist explanation.

There are other explanations favoured by other schools of economists, but yeah monetarist has been the major one for several decades. Though it must be said, there is a huge Keynesian revival at the moment, this current crisis has caused a bit of a rethink.

I imagine both are a bit wacky, though Monetarist seems slightly closer to the truth.

It's always two comepeting groups of Economists who keep coming up with newer counter theories.

I'd bet the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Even if there wasn't... i'm hesitant to believe there is a "Universal" guide to economics.

 

It's likely why the two sides go up and down... because they both work, and both don't work depending on the situation.

 



Ever since I heard the song "Land Down Under", I wanted to move there too. Australians ride around in kangaroo pouches instead of driving cars, too. In my opinion, that is so awesome!



My ex girlfriend lives in Australia and she loves it! I'm thinking of moving back to Europe myself since the majority of my family lives there.



TheRealMafoo said:
thanny said:

Well i live on the East coast of Australia... and a few things:
-The weather is no where near as bad as everyone makes it out to be. 90-something % of the whole population lives near the coast where it is cooler... The harshest weather is in the outback where you wouldnt be moving anyway. As for the UV, its only a problem between 11 and 3 in the summer months... and you can just put on sunscreen. Its no where near as bad as some people here are making it out to be!
-There are, of course, some very hot days in summer that get 40+ degrees, but overall the weather is very pleasant. Depending on where you live of course, even winter is comfortable to be outside in, and there are many sunny days.
-Best beaches in the world
-Games are generally more expensive taking into consideration conversion rates of currencies. However JB-HiFi sell for far less then every other retailer, and they are starting to dominate the market so other retailers may be forced to start reducing prices
-Currently in the Commonwealth but may become a republic at some stage in the future. The latest referendum for becoming a republic got turned down quite convincingly... When Charles however, becomes king, it may be a different story
-in my *personal* opinion the government currently is pretty good. any government could be better but im very happy with the way the country is being run at the moment
-probably the worst thing in my opinion is the public transport.... Most cities, with the possible exception of Melbourne, have public transport systems that are not up to par with other major world cities. Still, they are bearable.

I love living in Australia, and i doubt i would ever want to live anywhere else... I personally recommend either Melbourne or the Hunter valley/Central coast in NSW. Melbourne constantly tops lists of the most livable and best cities in the world, and the Hunter valley/central coast regions are absolutely beautiful if you would rather live in a more layed back and relaxing place.
:)

Melbourne has 4 million people in it. Are there smaller towns around it you would recommend looking into? Also, I am a software developer. How is work down there in that field?

Well IT is the most in-demand industry in the nation, so you should be able to find work fairly easily.

if you dont like large cities, I would recommend moving into a town that is near Newcastle, for eg maitland. It is not 'urban' like a city, as there is plenty of bush and such around, but there is also lots of close shops and places where you can get work. Maitland is about 20 minutes from the city of Newcastle, which has awesome beaches and plenty of work available. Basically, its not dense and it is close to anything you would need. As far as towns near Melbourne, i cant help you out too much because i live nowhere near there.



 

 

 

 

 

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Kasz216 said:

Actually Ninjadan... that's not what the majority of people think... but ok.

As Rath said... Monetarist is still the dominant school of thought.

 

That there was a Depression... caused by the free market.

However what made it "great" was the government and the Fed.

Depressions are natrual.

At one time the majority of the people thought that the earth was flat, all that means is that most people are misinformed.

Free Market= FUCK THE WORKER IN THE ASS UNTIL HE NEEDS A COLOSTOMY AND THEN FUCK HIM EVEN HARDER!



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NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:

Actually Ninjadan... that's not what the majority of people think... but ok.

As Rath said... Monetarist is still the dominant school of thought.

 

That there was a Depression... caused by the free market.

However what made it "great" was the government and the Fed.

Depressions are natrual.

At one time the majority of the people thought that the earth was flat, all that means is that most people are misinformed.

Free Market= FUCK THE WORKER IN THE ASS UNTIL HE NEEDS A COLOSTOMY AND THEN FUCK HIM EVEN HARDER!

Which is ironic... since that line applies to you and not me.

When I said most people... I meant most economists.  IE Most people who know what they're talking about, in refrence to your post.


Most people actually still beleive government inaction rather then action is what caused the great depression, because Kensyian economics are were big back when the core history books were written.

Ask an economist what happened...

They're mostly going to go with what i've stated.

 

The problem is... your getting to emotionally invested and worked up about it.  Your not taking a clear overhead view of it.



NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:

Actually Ninjadan... that's not what the majority of people think... but ok.

As Rath said... Monetarist is still the dominant school of thought.

 

That there was a Depression... caused by the free market.

However what made it "great" was the government and the Fed.

Depressions are natrual.

At one time the majority of the people thought that the earth was flat, all that means is that most people are misinformed.

Free Market= FUCK THE WORKER IN THE ASS UNTIL HE NEEDS A COLOSTOMY AND THEN FUCK HIM EVEN HARDER!

Free market can also mean:

  • 'Don't let a company that makes crappy products continue to run through government support'
  • 'A worker has to actually work to have a job - you can't go to work, be lazy, and then force the business to keep him'
  • 'Workers can provide varying value, depending on the arrangement between the company and the worker - its to be negotiated, not forced'

And a ton of other things. Your profile says you are 58, and I must ask - What job do you have that makes you feel this way?



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NinjaguyDan said:
TheRealMafoo said:

I want to live under the form of Government that's closest to the US in 1920 

We all know how that decade ended. 

Yea, that's why I didn't say 1930.

The worst decline in American history happened in 1921. Government worked then (did nothing), and we recovered in a year. 9 years later a smaller one happened, and the government of 1930 tried to fix it, and we didn't recover until after WWII.

I will take the government of 1920 over the government of 1930-present any day.



TheRealMafoo said:
MontanaHatchet said:
TheRealMafoo said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
TheRealMafoo.. do you have any Māori ancestors? Is that why you are considering moving to Australia? (if that is you in your avatar picture) :/

No offense.

No, Russian and German Jew is what gives me my color.

@Montana

I don't hate America, I just hate what it's becoming. The America I was born in 40 years ago is gone, and I will never see it again.

I don't hate Belgium, but no way in hell would I live there.

Oh, and the reason for Australia over NZ, is I think there immigration laws make it easier to enter and work. Both seemed like great places to live.

Yeah, but you once bitched at Akuma for saying that he'd rather live in France. I just thought that was some big hypocrisy coming from you. Whatever.

For 200 years, the US used to stand for something. I want to live in the country that follows those views.

When I was born, the US was the best country in the world with respect to that. Not anymore. If our government wants us to follow in Europe's footsteps then fine. I just don't wish to go there.

I want to live under the form of Government that's closest to the US in 1920 (and add in civil rights). That country, I think is Australia. It's not the US, and nothing in washington at the moment tells me it ever will be.

Look, the problem you're experiencing is one that isn't going to go away. Switching countries for political/ideological reasons is a very rash step. I'm certain that people of your temperament who were 40 years old in 1920 felt extremely uncomfortable with where the country was going then, too (legalized unions? federal income Tax? Anti-monopoly laws? wtf!!). You should work to mitigate that problem here and now, and also wait to see if the discomfort you're experiencing isn't naturally mitigated anyway (welfare did roll back in the mid 90s, after all, not that i'm pleased with it).

 

What you're saying is like someone who left the country to Australia in 1920 so they could go drinking, and then prohibition was repealed a few years later (or more, depending on your state)

 

And the government of 1930 didn't do anything, and the depression continued deepening until 1933. It is true that Roosevelt's over-pushing resulted in a backslide in 1936, but the inaction of Hoover was what made the mess of 1932/33 what it was



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