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.jayderyu said:
My 2 cents.

Congratulations to the sales of FF. It certainly gave some nice hardware sales boost. I think Square should be proud.

On the other hand I have made previous comments that still has this fall into it. FF is such a big name that it has a strong loyalty. Many Final Fantasy fans "knew" FF13 would be on the PS3 and as such chose what system. It could have released on the NGage and done super well. In that the sales of 1.5Million in 4 days could be the core fans of Final Fantasy. I also think the core fans will show themselves coming for the next month. It will be 2 months down the road to really see the impact that Square has with Final Fantasy.

Why anyone doubted the strength of FF has with it's core fans I have no idea. Though i'm surprised the numbers aren't higher.

Actually, you raise a good point. It's quite possible that FFXIII could be considered a system seller if you take earlier sales into account, especially if you consider the week of the demo.



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ClaudeLv250 said:

Slightly under my predictions (1.6m) but still pretty close. Great for a PS3 game, not so much an FF game. With its legs steadily disappearing since last gen, I'm not sure if it'll reach my 2.1m Lifetime prediction.

I guess we'll see next week.

 

 

Some quotes from the FFXIII prediciton thread Claude just linked to:

Jarrod:
"Final Fantasy XIII (fw ~1.3m, ltd 2m)"

The Source:
"Final Fantasy XIII FW - 850,000 to 1,150,000 looks realistic... 1.25m to 1.65m LTD"

Darth:
"FINAL FANTASY XIII:
First Week -- 1.5 Million"


Crazily enough, Darth ended up being... right?

Jarrod is a very reasonable poster and The Source obviously makes some incredibly accurate predictions.  They're also clearly people who consider all the factors, and think a lot about these things.  This shows pretty clearly how FFXIII has performed versus the expectations of those on the site.


It's also worth noting that Famitsu expected 1 million to 1.5 million LIFETIME for FFXIII.  The game has just beaten the lifetime expectations of Japan's main market predictor in its first week.

 

 

By the way, if anyone is offended by me quoting their posts, let me know and I'll take it down.



 

I should mention, I didn't adjust my prediction after we found out the actual 1st week shipment figure (1.8m). I was basically expecting a virtual sellout of what we thought we knew previously (1.34m shipment rumored).

I still think my lifetime prediction is dead on though, but it may go a little higher (2.1m). The bigger shipment upfront just means it'll be more frontloaded, though I think it'll be a little less so versus FFX/XII thanks to the holidays. I'm predicting 270k for next week.



pezus said:
jarrod said:
So moving on, anyone want to predict next week's FFXIII sales?

Final Fantasy first and second weeks (Famitsu):

[PS1] Final Fantasy VII (Square) - 2.034.879 / 2.034.879
[PS1] Final Fantasy VII (Square) - 329.740 / 2.364.619

[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) - 2.504.044 / 2.504.044
[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) - 270.993 / 2.775.037

[PS1] Final Fantasy IX (Square) - 1.954.421 / 1.954.421
[PS1] Final Fantasy IX (Square) - 328.404 / 2.282.826

[PS2] Final Fantasy X (Square) - 1.749.737 / 1.749.737
[PS2] Final Fantasy X (Square) - 233.429 / 1.983.166

[PS2] Final Fantasy X-2 (Square Enix) - 1.472.914 / 1.472.914
[PS2] Final Fantasy X-2 (Square Enix) - 181.798 / 1.654.712

[PS2] Final Fantasy XII (Square Enix) - 1.840.397 / 1.840.397
[PS2] Final Fantasy XII (Square Enix) - 217.438 / 2.057.835

[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1.516.532 / 1.516.532

I'll say 210k

This the holiday season! Predict a little higher! 2nd and 3rd week for XIII will be better than the other games because of that.

 

Maybe 350k second week

Maybe 100k 3rd week.



Xoj said:
ethomaz said:
Xoj said:
so what are the records ps3 broke wit this?

Hummmm...

* The BEST PS3 week sales in Japan.
* The BEST first week sales for a console JRPG this gen.
* The FIRST HD game over 1 million in Japan.
* The FIRST PS3 game over 1 million in Japan.

Any more?

Best selling console JRPG this gen.

 

fixed.

All 5 accomplishments are expected though. Two of those would be challenged in Japan when DQX is released.

 



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Thank you. And DQX should be a monster.



DQ X is promised to be to DQ what FF VII was to FF, the rise of the series as a WW hit. And sure, DQ is just getting stronger in western market with the years.



heruamon said:
1.5 mil is a darn good attach rate in Japan, but we will have to see about legs...


...I assume like every other FF game in Japan the legs will be horrendous... barely doing another 500k if that... so... why will we need to see about them??



jarrod said:
So moving on, anyone want to predict next week's FFXIII sales?

Final Fantasy first and second weeks (Famitsu):

[PS1] Final Fantasy VII (Square) - 2.034.879 / 2.034.879
[PS1] Final Fantasy VII (Square) - 329.740 / 2.364.619

[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) - 2.504.044 / 2.504.044
[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) - 270.993 / 2.775.037

[PS1] Final Fantasy IX (Square) - 1.954.421 / 1.954.421
[PS1] Final Fantasy IX (Square) - 328.404 / 2.282.826

[PS2] Final Fantasy X (Square) - 1.749.737 / 1.749.737
[PS2] Final Fantasy X (Square) - 233.429 / 1.983.166

[PS2] Final Fantasy X-2 (Square Enix) - 1.472.914 / 1.472.914
[PS2] Final Fantasy X-2 (Square Enix) - 181.798 / 1.654.712

[PS2] Final Fantasy XII (Square Enix) - 1.840.397 / 1.840.397
[PS2] Final Fantasy XII (Square Enix) - 217.438 / 2.057.835

[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1.516.532 / 1.516.532

190k



saicho said:
Xoj said:
ethomaz said:
Xoj said:
so what are the records ps3 broke wit this?

Hummmm...

* The BEST PS3 week sales in Japan.
* The BEST first week sales for a console JRPG this gen.
* The FIRST HD game over 1 million in Japan.
* The FIRST PS3 game over 1 million in Japan.

Any more?

Best selling console JRPG this gen.

 

fixed.

All 5 accomplishments are expected though. Two of those would be challenged in Japan when DQX is released.

 

 

Actually, FFXIII in Japan has done the single most successful first week sales for a home console game this gen.  No need to specify PS3.  It's beaten every Wii game and PS3 game released so far this gen.  And by over half a million, I believe.

 

Unless there's a game I'm not thinking of?