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Not a pleasant ocean planet like Manaan from KOTOR, but a harsh hybrid of a crushing Venusian atmosphere with a hydrogen and helium atmosphere - similar to a gas giant, but most likely small enough to still have a major ocean.

A few quick tables about the comparison:

Comparison
Mass 1.0 Earth Masses 6.55 Earth Masses
Gravity 1.0 g 0.91g
Radius 6,371km 2.678 Earths
Semi Major Axis 1.0 AU 0.014 AU
Temperature (Mean) 287 Kelvin 393-555 Kelvin
Atmosphere 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen Helium, Hydrogen
Escape Velocity 29 km/s 95 km/s
Star Spectral Type G2V M4.5
     

Really interesting stuff. It is *only* 40 light years away. Although it certainly isn't habitable (and Gilese 876 is more attractive), it certainly is interesting. Very excited COROT found this. Hopefully it continues to find new exoplanets. I can't wait 'till we find more super earths like this.

For the quote via CfA Press Room:

Press Release

Release No.: 2009-24For Release: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 01:00:00 PM EST
Astronomers Find Super-Earth Using Amateur, Off-the-Shelf Technology
Cambridge, MA - Astronomers announced today that they have discovered a "super-Earth" orbiting a red dwarf star 40 light-years from Earth. They found the distant planet with a small fleet of ground-based telescopes no larger than those many amateur astronomers have in their backyards. Although the super-Earth is too hot to sustain life, the discovery shows that current, ground-based technologies are capable of finding almost-Earth-sized planets in warm, life-friendly orbits.

The discovery is being published in the December 17 issue of the journal Nature.

A super-Earth is defined as a planet between one and ten times the mass of the Earth. The newfound world, GJ1214b, is about 6.5 times as massive as the Earth. Its host star, GJ1214, is a small, red type M star about one-fifth the size of the Sun. It has a surface temperature of only about 4,900 degrees F and a luminosity only three-thousandths as bright as the Sun.

GJ1214b orbits its star once every 38 hours at a distance of only 1.3 million miles. Astronomers estimate the planet's temperature to be about 400 degrees Fahrenheit. Although warm as an oven, it is still cooler than any other known transiting planet because it orbits a very dim star.

Since GJ1214b crosses in front of its star, astronomers were able to measure its radius, which is about 2.7 times that of Earth. This makes GJ1214b one of the two smallest transiting worlds astronomers have discovered (the other being CoRoT-7-b). The resulting density suggests that GJ1214b is composed of about three-fourths water and other ices, and one-fourth rock. There are also tantalizing hints that the planet has a gaseous atmosphere.

"Despite its hot temperature, this appears to be a waterworld," said Zachory Berta, a graduate student at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) who first spotted the hint of the planet among the data. "It is much smaller, cooler, and more Earthlike than any other known exoplanet."

Berta added that some of the planet's water should be in the form of exotic materials like Ice VII (seven) - a crystalline form of water that exists at pressures greater than 20,000 times Earth's sea-level atmosphere.

Astronomers found the new planet using the MEarth (pronounced "mirth") Project - an array of eight identical 16-inch-diameter RC Optical Systems telescopes that monitor a pre-selected list of 2,000 red dwarf stars. Each telescope perches on a highly accurate Software Bisque Paramount and funnels light to an Apogee Alta U42 camera containing a charge-coupled device (CCD) chip, which many amateurs also use.

"Since we found the super-earth using a small ground-based telescope, this means that anyone else with a similar telescope and a good CCD camera can detect it too. Students around the world can now study this super-earth!" said David Charbonneau of CfA, lead author and head of the MEarth project.

MEarth looks for stars that change brightness. The goal is to find a planet that crosses in front of, or transits, its star. During such a mini-eclipse, the planet blocks a small portion of the star's light, making it dimmer. Using innovative data processing techniques, astronomers can tease out the telltale signal of a transiting planet and distinguish it from "false positives" such as eclipsing double stars.

NASA's Kepler mission also uses transits to look for Earth-sized planets orbiting Sun-like stars. However, such systems dim by only one part in ten thousand. The higher precision required to detect the drop means that such worlds can only be found from space.

In contrast, a super-Earth transiting a small, red dwarf star yields a greater proportional decrease in brightness and a stronger signal detectable from the ground. Astronomers then use instruments like the HARPS (High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher) spectrograph at the European Southern Observatory to measure the companion's mass and confirm it is a planet, as they did with this discovery.

When astronomers compared the measured radius of GJ1214b to theoretical models, they found that the observed radius exceeds the model's prediction, even assuming a pure water planet. Something more than the planet's solid surface may be blocking the star's light - specifically, a surrounding atmosphere.

The team also notes that, if it has an atmosphere, those gases are almost certainly not primordial. The star's heat is gradually boiling off the atmosphere. Over the planet's multiple-billion-year lifetime, much of the original atmosphere may have been lost.

The next step for astronomers is to try to directly detect and characterize the atmosphere, which will require a space-based instrument like NASA's Hubble Space Telescope. GJ1214b is only 40 light-years from Earth, within the reach of current observatories.

"Since this planet is so close to Earth, Hubble should be able to detect the atmosphere and determine what it's made of," said Charbonneau. "That will make it the first super-Earth with a confirmed atmosphere - even though that atmosphere probably won't be hospitable to life as we know it."

Headquartered in Cambridge, Mass., the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) is a joint collaboration between the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory and the Harvard College Observatory. CfA scientists, organized into six research divisions, study the origin, evolution and ultimate fate of the universe.




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Detecting rocky exoplanets is one of the most challenging areas of science right now. It's no good finding hundreds of gas giants and nothing else. This is good news on that basis alone, it's great that we can detect rocky exoplanets now.



Can somebody explain to me how this planet could have six times the Earth's mass and yet less gravity? Is it a matter of density and how far into the atmosphere you have to travel before you reach the surface?

Edit: Maybe they're figuring in displacement as if you didn't have to visit the planet inside a sturdy pressure hull?



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famousringo said:

Can somebody explain to me how this planet could have six times the Earth's mass and yet less gravity? Is it a matter of density and how far into the atmosphere you have to travel before you reach the surface?

Edit: Maybe they're figuring in displacement as if you didn't have to visit the planet inside a sturdy pressure hull?

Here is the explanation:

The CoRoT-7b has a density close to that of the Earth (5.5 grammes per cubic centimetre) and seems to be rocky, while the new discovery appears to be much less dense (1.9 g/cm3).

"To keep the planet's density that low requires that it contains large amounts of water," said Marcy. "It must contain a huge amount of water, roughly 50 percent by mass."

 

There you go.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091216/sc_afp/scienceastronomy

I guess that is why its even considered for being an ocean planet.



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Have they taken into consideration that this could be a relatively small Ice giant, like Neptune or Uranus, that exists so close to its star that the ice is water? Therefore this could just be a big ball of dirty water.



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Yeah, i saw this too... glad someone posted it.

The funny part is just how it was discovered.... with regularish telescopes that anybody could use.



sounds absoluitels y awsome!

love iy. lets move there. wooooooooooo!



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Why are all scientists always interested in water on other planets?



famousringo said:

Can somebody explain to me how this planet could have six times the Earth's mass and yet less gravity? Is it a matter of density and how far into the atmosphere you have to travel before you reach the surface?

Edit: Maybe they're figuring in displacement as if you didn't have to visit the planet inside a sturdy pressure hull?

The accleration you experience caused by an object equals GM/r^2 where G is a constant, M is the objects mass, and r is the distance between you and it.  When you put in Earth's mass and radius, you get 9.81 m/s^2 (or 1g).  When you put in 6.55 times the mass of the earth and 2.678 times the radius of the earth, you get 8.96 m/s^2 (or .913 g).  You can try it yourself.

More plainly, distance (radius) plays a larger role in the gravity than mass because it's squared, as opposed to just being to the first power like mass.

 

Edit: So, even though mass is 6.55 times bigger and the radius is only 2.678 times as big, the increased radius has a larger effect because it's squared in the equation (2.678 squared is 7.17).