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I can't remember the last time they announced a game for the Wii that was even semi-big. For example, Namco announced today Naruto for the HD platforms. This year, the only notable announcement made for the Wii in Japan was Sengoku Basara 3, but it's also getting released on the PS3 which will be the superior version.



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trestres said:
I can't remember the last time they announced a game for the Wii that was even semi-big. For example, Namco announced today Naruto for the HD platforms. This year, the only notable announcement made for the Wii in Japan was Sengoku Basara 3, but it's also getting released on the PS3 which will be the superior version.

I can't really either. All I can say is that it will eventually happen. With the Wii potentially passing 10 million in Japan by the end of March 2010, it has a market big enough to support every genre. All you need is someone to fill it.



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I think uaserbase size doesnt matter that much, when you know that on a console with a smaller userbase you are assured more sales.



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it's not that there is no 3rd party games on the wii, it's the fact that by comparison it feels like there is no 3rd party games on wii because the PS3 and 360 simply have so much 3rd part games coming out...all I have to say that if ya only own a wii then ya missing so much great 3rd party games which are coming out on the other 2 consoles.



Destroyer_of_knights said:
it's not that there is no 3rd party games on the wii, it's the fact that by comparison it feels like there is no 3rd party games on wii because the PS3 and 360 simply have so much 3rd part games coming out...all I have to say that if ya only own a wii then ya missing so much great 3rd party games which are coming out on the other 2 consoles.

TBH I can barely cope with all my Wii games, so for now I've got no desire to buy another console. In the future, maybe... 




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trestres said:
I think uaserbase size doesnt matter that much, when you know that on a console with a smaller userbase you are assured more sales.

install base still matters but only for the PS3 and 360, not so much for the wii.

/rant

The problem with the wii's install base are the casuals who don't purchase software or puchase software once in a blue moon (excluding the hardcore minority), and because of this it's hard to gauge potential software sales on the platform if your 3rd party, if you look at the land scape we have examples of good 3rd party games barely breaking 300k, other times you have games that crack over 1 million in sales but the sequal bombs in comaprison by only reach about 300k, it happened to house of the dead over kill which was significanly better than the original.

The wii install base is just to random for 3rd party, add to this the fact that 3rd party have yet to figure out how to exactly cater to the casual audiance on the wii and you have a situation where these 3rd part simply create cheap shovelware on the wii because it's a low calculated risk with a high turn around in profits, while creating big hyped games for the PS3 and 360. Even when a game is flawed it can still sell well based on it's premise, assasins creed 1 was a good example...the great thing is that because it sold so well we got assasins creed 2 which is essentially what the 1st should have been in regards to gameplay...this is something that I have not seen happen on the wii at all.

Lets be honest though, apart from a couple of rare 3rd party games selling well, the majorty of big selling games are Nintendo games, having said that it is Ninendo fault for not enticing 3rd party games to have their big tittles come to the wii, Nintendo should have payed for exclusives, it should have payed for time exclusivies, it should have partnered up with a high profile games and marketed the shit out of that to the point where people thought it was only on the wii. Nintendo would have helped 3rd party games sell well enough to the point were 3rd were willing came to the platform with their big games....I know allot of you will disagree despite the outcome that we have today, perhaps if Nintendo had actually tried, just like it's competition then things could be different today.

I have to say, if you look at past generation of console, the lead console with the largest install base was always the 1st to get all high profile multiplatform 3rd party games and that's if they weren't exclusive, and yet here we are today looking at the wii which is currently the lead console with the largest install base and yet all high profile multiplatform 3rd party games only appear on it's competition on a continual basis...one must see that Nintendo really dropped the ball despite how much of a fanboy you are.

/rant



TopCat said:
Destroyer_of_knights said:
it's not that there is no 3rd party games on the wii, it's the fact that by comparison it feels like there is no 3rd party games on wii because the PS3 and 360 simply have so much 3rd part games coming out...all I have to say that if ya only own a wii then ya missing so much great 3rd party games which are coming out on the other 2 consoles.

TBH I can barely cope with all my Wii games, so for now I've got no desire to buy another console. In the future, maybe... 

fair enough, I suppose my taste in games are different to yours, or perhaps my standards are different because I've been exposed to HD games, but when I look a the land scape of wii games, there is barely anything that interests me, No more heroes was one I was interested in but I'll be getting the PS3 version if the port ends up being decent, The conduit was another game, but when I saw some gameplay footage...well I saw better FPS on the PS3 so by comparison there was no interest investing in the game, especially when the online is so much better on the PS3 than the wii, love playing online, and in case you interested, yes I do actually own a wii, got it free when I bought my TV via a promotion, but like I said, just different tastes.



Destroyer_of_knights said:
trestres said:
I think uaserbase size doesnt matter that much, when you know that on a console with a smaller userbase you are assured more sales.

install base still matters but only for the PS3 and 360, not so much for the wii.

/rant

The problem with the wii's install base are the casuals who don't purchase software or puchase software once in a blue moon (excluding the hardcore minority), and because of this it's hard to gauge potential software sales on the platform if your 3rd party, if you look at the land scape we have examples of good 3rd party games barely breaking 300k, other times you have games that crack over 1 million in sales but the sequal bombs in comaprison by only reach about 300k, it happened to house of the dead over kill which was significanly better than the original.

The wii install base is just to random for 3rd party, add to this the fact that 3rd party have yet to figure out how to exactly cater to the casual audiance on the wii and you have a situation where these 3rd part simply create cheap shovelware on the wii because it's a low calculated risk with a high turn around in profits, while creating big hyped games for the PS3 and 360. Even when a game is flawed it can still sell well based on it's premise, assasins creed 1 was a good example...the great thing is that because it sold so well we got assasins creed 2 which is essentially what the 1st should have been in regards to gameplay...this is something that I have not seen happen on the wii at all.

Lets be honest though, apart from a couple of rare 3rd party games selling well, the majorty of big selling games are Nintendo games, having said that it is Ninendo fault for not enticing 3rd party games to have their big tittles come to the wii, Nintendo should have payed for exclusives, it should have payed for time exclusivies, it should have partnered up with a high profile games and marketed the shit out of that to the point where people thought it was only on the wii. Nintendo would have helped 3rd party games sell well enough to the point were 3rd were willing came to the platform with their big games....I know allot of you will disagree despite the outcome that we have today, perhaps if Nintendo had actually tried, just like it's competition then things could be different today.

I have to say, if you look at past generation of console, the lead console with the largest install base was always the 1st to get all high profile multiplatform 3rd party games and that's if they weren't exclusive, and yet here we are today looking at the wii which is currently the lead console with the largest install base and yet all high profile multiplatform 3rd party games only appear on it's competition on a continual basis...one must see that Nintendo really dropped the ball despite how much of a fanboy you are.

/rant

thanks for letting me kno that was just a fanboy rant, saves me the trouble of reading it



Destroyer_of_knights said:
TopCat said:
Destroyer_of_knights said:
it's not that there is no 3rd party games on the wii, it's the fact that by comparison it feels like there is no 3rd party games on wii because the PS3 and 360 simply have so much 3rd part games coming out...all I have to say that if ya only own a wii then ya missing so much great 3rd party games which are coming out on the other 2 consoles.

TBH I can barely cope with all my Wii games, so for now I've got no desire to buy another console. In the future, maybe... 

fair enough, I suppose my taste in games are different to yours, or perhaps my standards are different because I've been exposed to HD games, but when I look a the land scape of wii games, there is barely anything that interests me, No more heroes was one I was interested in but I'll be getting the PS3 version if the port ends up being decent, The conduit was another game, but when I saw some gameplay footage...well I saw better FPS on the PS3 so by comparison there was no interest investing in the game, especially when the online is so much better on the PS3 than the wii, love playing online, and in case you interested, yes I do actually own a wii, got it free when I bought my TV via a promotion, but like I said, just different tastes.

I read all that you had to say before, and I understood what you said.

The bolded part is what irks me though. It isn't like after I played the 360 or PS3 that suddenly I was 'exposed' to an upper echelon of gaming. It seems like one you play PS3/360, you can't even consider the Wii a gaming console anymore. {You in the general sense} had something going with your Wii, but suddenly had a Eureka moment and can never look at it again.

 

It's like finding out you are adopted by accident.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

trestres said:
I can't remember the last time they announced a game for the Wii that was even semi-big. For example, Namco announced today Naruto for the HD platforms. This year, the only notable announcement made for the Wii in Japan was Sengoku Basara 3, but it's also getting released on the PS3 which will be the superior version.


you say :for example Namco announced naruto for ps3.... COUGH* we just got an exclusive Naruto Shippuden 3, ONLY For wii. So its semig big if its on the PS360 but not big if its on the wii? Moreover, Japan also got JUST got ANOTHER exclusive Naruto shippuden game, which might come to US.And it looks quite pretty at it. So hmm, just keeping it clear here.So yes, is easy for me to remember what happened just weeks ago.Like Samurai warriors 3 AND Devil Kings 3. Both for Wii AND ps3. Im not even checking more stuff here, just pulling from my recent memory.