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disolitude on 17 December 2009
Soleron said:
disolitude said:
Soleron said:
disolitude said:
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Yeah it does have 2 PCI express slots. It will be a tight fit which makes me worry about cooling but we will see...

Believe it or not, it will still come out cheaper this way. GTX275 is around 300 bucks here + tax...if you find a good deal.

Plus the benchmarks I saw and research I did indicated that GTS250 SLI is better than GTX275... would you not agree?

SLI requires more than 2 PCI-e slots. It requires you to have an Nvidia motherboard, or one of the few motherboards Nvidia has certified for SLI (P55 or X58). If they have, it will be on the motherboard specs or in a BIOS update. Crossfire has no such restrictions.

I know the setup will give greater performance in most games, but if SLI doesn't have a driver profile on a particular game, or the game is very new, SLI may not work and you'll be reduced to the performance of a single GTS 250 (or worse in some cases). I'm not saying don't do it, just be aware that could happen.


Well thats freekin great!

It shows why I've been an ATI guy all my life...

I have a few things to do with this setup.

Im installing windows 7 this week...still debating for 32 or 64 bit...but prolly 32. Once that settles down, I'll see how the performance is. Its great for the most part and I really don't mind turning off some shadows and setting detail to medium... but in the future I was counting on the SLI option to bail me out when new games start coming out that I can't run anymore.

God Nvidia sucks...

 



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jefforange89 on 17 December 2009

Go for 64-bit, 32-bit's dead technology.



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My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64		 Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
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disolitude on 17 December 2009
jefforange89 said:
Go for 64-bit, 32-bit's dead technology.

Would I run in to any issues with compatibility issues for older games/software with 64bit?



jefforange89 on 17 December 2009

Nope, 32-bit programs still work perfectly fine.



Wii/PC/DS Lite/PSP-2000 owner, shameless Nintendo and AMD fanboy.

My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64		 Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
WD Caviar Black 750 GB, WD Caviar Black 1 TB
Display: Triple ASUS 25.5" 1920x1200 monitors
Sound: HT Omega Striker 7.1 sound card,
Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Input: Logitech G5 mouse,
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard
Wii Friend Code: 2772 8804 2626 5138 Steam: jefforange89
Lord Flashheart on 17 December 2009
disolitude said:
nightsurge said:
For 3D at 1080p, you really want at least a GTX 275. To have a smooth experience, you need to be able to have 120 fps so that in 3D it is 2 streams at 60 fps.

Its really not as bad as people think. with an 8800 GS I ran Fear 2 with 75% quality perfectly. Games like FEAR, Half Life, Left 4 Dead, Far Cry all run with 8800GS fully playable in 3D.

Now we all know Crysis is the exception, but i mean, I don't mind turning off AA (I have 1080p so I won't really miss it) and making detail medium on most games. I do think this will work pretty good with 90% of games... I have a gut feeling :)

Good to hear as that's my Graphics card and I get my 3d shit in a week or so.

I hear Crysis doesn't work in 3d. You get grphical glitches and artifacts. Stick to 2d for that game.



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disolitude on 17 December 2009
Lord Flashheart said:
disolitude said:
nightsurge said:
For 3D at 1080p, you really want at least a GTX 275. To have a smooth experience, you need to be able to have 120 fps so that in 3D it is 2 streams at 60 fps.

Its really not as bad as people think. with an 8800 GS I ran Fear 2 with 75% quality perfectly. Games like FEAR, Half Life, Left 4 Dead, Far Cry all run with 8800GS fully playable in 3D.

Now we all know Crysis is the exception, but i mean, I don't mind turning off AA (I have 1080p so I won't really miss it) and making detail medium on most games. I do think this will work pretty good with 90% of games... I have a gut feeling :)

Good to hear as that's my Graphics card and I get my 3d shit in a week or so.

I hear Crysis doesn't work in 3d. You get grphical glitches and artifacts. Stick to 2d for that game.

Yeah...you will quickly learn which old games have optimizied engine and which dont.

There is no reason why Halo would run worse than Half life 2 since its a port form a 2001 733 Mhz Xbox game...but it does when you put it in 3D using that card.

You will proably want to upgrade the video card soon as you will spend more time watching 3D videos of people playing cool new games than actually playing them yourself :)



Lord Flashheart on 17 December 2009

Ha. I've been watching 3d videos (red/green) of videos of people playing 3d games for a few months now. Looks like it'll continue for a few more.
Upgrade GC is next on my list.



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disolitude on 20 December 2009

So I went ahead and sold the GTS250 and bought GTX275... That lead to me buying a 850 Watt power supply that won't even fit in my case...lol. But it was worth it...Gears of War looks astonishing in 3D.

The lessson here is that if you want to do 3D today and do it right...you must spend lots of $$$.



WilliamWatts on 20 December 2009
disolitude said:
So I went ahead and sold the GTS250 and bought GTX275... That lead to me buying a 850 Watt power supply that won't even fit in my case...lol. But it was worth it...Gears of War looks astonishing in 3D.

The lessson here is that if you want to do 3D today and do it right...you must spend lots of $$$.

You should have had the PSU to run 2x 6pin PCI-E if you had a reasonably specced 500W PSU. But im glad to see you got the card you needed in the first place.

disolitude on 20 December 2009
WilliamWatts said:
disolitude said:
So I went ahead and sold the GTS250 and bought GTX275... That lead to me buying a 850 Watt power supply that won't even fit in my case...lol. But it was worth it...Gears of War looks astonishing in 3D.

The lessson here is that if you want to do 3D today and do it right...you must spend lots of $$$.

You should have had the PSU to run 2x 6pin PCI-E if you had a reasonably specced 500W PSU. But im glad to see you got the card you needed in the first place.

PSU I had did not have enough amps on the +12 volt line. Wattage was fine but it needed something like 36 amps...

So I bought this PSU because if I want to go SLI, I should be covered.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371024

All in all, I am happy that I got the thing going finally as it should be. Over the next 6 months I'll need a new case (to fit that gigantic power supply, a new SLI ready mobo, new CPU, and another GTX275.

Obsession has been born... :)