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silenteion on 03 November 2007
Cryoakira said:
HappySqurriel said:

With how fanboys react they should just eliminate the number scale and give everygame a 10++ ...


Isen't that what's happening already ?

I mean, when I read US gaming websites reviews, the scores are usually so high it doesn't even mean anything anymore. Since when 7.5 become a bad grade ?

I was surprised, in a good way, when Gamespot started to give scores that were a little more realistic (and I'm not saynig that for R&C).


Amen brother!!



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ItsaMii on 03 November 2007
Ari_Gold said:
MontanaHatchet said:
It's a never ending cycle.

Gamespot or another website gives a Wii game a bad score. Nintendo fanboys bitch endlessly, and Sony fanboys claim it's fair.

Gamespot gives a PS3 game a bad score. Sony fanboys bitch endlessly, and Nintendo fanboys claim it's fair.

You're all hypocrites. Once the game in question isn't on your system, you think anyone who wants to complain is unjustified.

Gamespot gave Ratchet and Clank an undeserving score. I mean, they gave Heavenly Sword an 8, and none of you fanboys would shut the hell up about how supposedly bad that game was.

Case in point?

You're all pathetic.

hahahahah,i lov this kid


 I dislike him. I am not a hypocrite (I can not back up the I am not a fanboy statement). I already said this into another thread, fanboys lack empathy. GS reviews are INCONSISTENT like diarrhea. Great games get ok scores and mediocre get amazing scores. They give 9-10 to "more of the same" sequels and take away points from games because they are just sequels.

It is better to just ignore their crap.



Satan said:

"You are for ever angry, all you care about is intelligence, but I repeat again that I would give away all this superstellar life, all the ranks and honours, simply to be transformed into the soul of a merchant's wife weighing eighteen stone and set candles at God's shrine."

Cadence on 03 November 2007
MontanaHatchet said:

It's a never ending cycle.

Gamespot or another website gives a Wii game a bad score. Nintendo fanboys bitch endlessly, and Sony fanboys claim it's fair.

Gamespot gives a PS3 game a bad score. Sony fanboys bitch endlessly, and Nintendo fanboys claim it's fair.

You're all hypocrites. Once the game in question isn't on your system, you think anyone who wants to complain is unjustified.

Gamespot gave Ratchet and Clank an undeserving score. I mean, they gave Heavenly Sword an 8, and none of you fanboys would shut the hell up about how supposedly bad that game was.

Case in point?

I didn't get enough sleep last night.


You are my hero.



MontanaHatchet on 03 November 2007

Hmmm...

Well I like you. You've updated quite a few Dreamcast games. Nice work!



 

 

DarkNight_DS on 03 November 2007

I refuse to visit gamespot for reasons beyond the whole bad ratings deal. They have a horrible mod system in their forums which is completely broken. Finding reviews that aren't new are a pain in the ass. The website is outdated.



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MikeB on 03 November 2007

@ Garcian Smith

The gameplay is basically the same as it was in the first four R&C games.


I think they have added to the gameplay and there's a great deal of gameplay varierity. I can imagine a Ratchet & Clank fan getting upset if they buy a next generation R&C game and being nothing like they loved before.

Similarly the average Madden fan, may not like it if Madden 2008 would really be Fifa soccer 2008. Buying sequels usually sets expectations appealing to fans of previous releases. IMO it's a weak argument unless you didn't like R&C in the first place, but the various PS2 releases was rated at 8.6 at minimum, this release does most definitately take the R&C games to a new level I would say.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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GooseGaws on 03 November 2007

A review is just an opinion of a game. If all reviews were exactly the same for every game, what would be the point? They shouldn't have to defend the review; the review itself is the defense. Just because one guy liked a game a little less than you did is not the end of the world. Personally, I played through the ToD demo and that was enough to convince me that I had no interest at all in purchasing the game.

@darthdevidem:

You might want to check your math there. If 7.5 is 2.6 less than 9.1, we're all in some serious trouble.



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MikeB on 03 November 2007

@ BrainBoxLtd

Same for the story. “There's some good humor in it, but the story isn't very interesting, and the ending is a letdown.” I understand they don’t want to spoilt things for people, but is it not interesting compared to previous R&C titles, or what? He does explain the ending is a cheap cliff hanger however, but is that what ultimately made the story a letdown? Because even a simple story for a game works fine, provided you still get proper closure.

Perhaps they do have very good reasons for their scores, but they need to further elaborate on why to avoid these kinds of accusations of favoritism or incompetence. It’s also cop-out to use the collective anonymous asses of the internet to avoid answering valid criticism when you’re confronted with it


I agree, but I don't think there's a truly objective reason for the score if you compare it to Conan or much higher rated yet boring poorly executed games like Condemned on the XBox 360.

Their criticism with regard to the story is interesting as some other reviewers especially praised the story telling and highlighted it in their summaries.

IGN: "Insomniac has created its most intriguing and diverse universe yet. The story is strong and ends with closure and a cliffhanger (figure that one out), while load times rarely exist."

To Gamespot: Where's the story in Gears of War and where's the innovation in Halo 3? I like hard reviews and criticism but please do so equally with all the games you review.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

ElRhodeo on 03 November 2007
MontanaHatchet said:

It's a never ending cycle.

Gamespot or another website gives a Wii game a bad score. Nintendo fanboys bitch endlessly, and Sony fanboys claim it's fair.

Gamespot gives a PS3 game a bad score. Sony fanboys bitch endlessly, and Nintendo fanboys claim it's fair.

You're all hypocrites. Once the game in question isn't on your system, you think anyone who wants to complain is unjustified.

Gamespot gave Ratchet and Clank an undeserving score. I mean, they gave Heavenly Sword an 8, and none of you fanboys would shut the hell up about how supposedly bad that game was.

Case in point?

I didn't get enough sleep last night. 


The Authority has spoken. Care to hear a perfectly objective and flame-free statement of The Authority? Of course, extended playtime preceded this judgement:

"Looks stupid.
I mean, you'd have to be a complete sheep to appreciate this."
MontanaHatchet on WiiFit

My point: Yes, there's a lot of hypocrites here. But you're one of them. The difference? You're a mod now.

 



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MontanaHatchet on 03 November 2007

Hmmm...

Maybe it's because I'm not completely sober, but I didn't understand a thing you just said. Hmmmmm indeed.