just look at COD4 on wii is got amazing legs, resident evil DC looks like it will have great legs

Yeah, I would say Red Steel made a hell of a lot more profit from it's sales than from an HD game with similar sales.

I liked Martin Hollis words.... Zoonami, they were the developers of Bonsai Barber right?

IMO wii graphics are perfectly fine. Sure they are not on par with ps3 and 360, but graphics are only one part of a game. The Wii has some fundamental issues though. The first is the over saturated market with shovel-ware by third parties due to Nintendo not setting quality standards like microsoft and sony. This caused a lot of games that could meet the hardcore and casual gamer market to get overlooked by fear of getting a crappy game. The next is the loss of the majority of its hardcore market due to Nintendo targeting a casual market over hardcore gamers (which from a business perspective has worked quite well). The next i would say are parental controls. Console isolation is an easy way to provide kid friendly internet use, but it alienates everyone over the age of 10. It would be nice to see a profile for the wii, much like ps3 and xbox360. Integrate it with the Miis and allow parents to set parental controls on the Mii. If Miis are friends they can play together. (that'd be nice and easy for parents). Anyway, the statment about most gamers being afraid of motion controls is almost ludicrous. Its not motion control they fear, but the poorly implemented controls.
Anywho, I love my Wii, but it leaves me disappointed sometimes.

Well, whenever I say Nintendo should bring back quality control people tell me Nintendo won't do that because third parties will go away, but in the end they are damaging their image and will be seen as a shovelware platform next gen if things don't change. At least some kind of control about content and quality, there's no excuse for devs to be porting PS2 stuff or making games that look like early dreamcast/N64 titles. Developers can't compete now because there's no more room for it, the shelves are filled with turds and it's very improbable some casual gamer will pick up a quality game over a crap one, since the crap games outnumber the good ones by a big margin, and most people will just pick a game judging it by the cover.

There are no demos, no advertisement, no will from retailers to stock a reasonable amount of copies. It's a nightmare for those devs that try, while on the other hand, the abominable shovelware makers are rejoicing over the sales of their turds, since Nintendo does allow them to publish as many games as they want, which means rushed products which flood retail and cover the good games. This needs a solution ASAP. Nintendo needs to perform quality control in the USA and set a fix number of games a publisher can publish in a certain span of time, because it's really ridiculous.

But Nintendo is making money out of every turd that gets sold, so I doubt they willwant to ruin this gold mine. Reggie says he's disappointed with 3rd parties, but if it wasn't for all the shovelware, they wouldn't be posting such high profits. It's a neverending cycle, where the most dedicated and informed gamers, as well as the quality devs will end up losing. Nintendo, crappy publishers and uninformed customers will always win.

Its sad someone would actually want to keep third party developers who produce games like game party... it makes me sick how well that game has sold.

"Well, whenever I say Nintendo should bring back quality control people tell me Nintendo won't do that because third parties will go away, but in the end they are damaging their image and will be seen as a shovelware platform next gen if things don't change."

It's not preventing the shovelware. It's getting the third parties to make the great games that overshadowed the shovelware on the other top systems of their generations.

@Lord: But if there's no control of what's being made, then devs will probably go the easy route. Even Sony ask for enhancements when there's a game ported from the 360 to the PS3. Anything could get released on the Wii, there's no control over anything.

You can't get that by setting a minimum, not when many developers are aprehensive to the Wii as it is. The best thing to do is to do is buy some bit his. Nintendo has apparently done that with them helping to market Dragon Quest X and Monster Hunter Tri in the west. Those game succeed, and it will show that such games can work on the Wii. That will leave developers knowing they can make big hits on the Wii.

Sure it will come late, but developers were dragging their heels.

I think by holding standards the third party companies who make games (and already hold themselves to these standards) won't have any issue and will be more inclined to produce games for the wii with a lower competition. Its really hard to sell a 3rd party game at $50 when there is 20 shovel-ware games to your 1 at $20.