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| xlost4 said: ^I say that because the 360 has if not the same amount as the PS3. So really your belief is almost wrong considering half of the JRPG's that are releasing are going to be on the 360 also. Sent via BlackBerry |
WTF!!! dude wat does it matter if the game isnt exclusive...when you PS3 and 360 make there JRPG list the will both add the same games( ROF,FF,SO4,TOV) plus the ones that only appear as exclusives, just becuase the game is multi doesnt exclude it as part of the JRPG list for either console's that logic is ridiculous thats like saying that when both consoles make there shooter list they cant add MW2 becuase its not exclusive its still part of there shooter line-up
btw its not half only 4 unreleased jrrpgs are releasing 2 are ports the others new (SO4,FFROF,FF13) everything else is ecxlusive to PS3 or Wii
Gilgamesh said:
It didn't have to, the JRPG's were thriving in the West last gen, not so much this gen. |
Ah, well, in that case the Final Fantasy series is what is killing the JRPG's then.
It's not that they're bad, it's that they are setting the bar too high. SE can handle taking five years to make an insanely high budget game but when FFXIII is released, good or bad, a bar on the look of the game will be set.
JRPG's are a funny breed because gameplay doesn't matter so that means the game relies on graphics, story, and characters. Since you cannot see story and characters (well, character design I guess, but whatever) that means people are left to look at graphics.
Lets jump back for a second-- look at your general shooter game, a major genre these days. There are without a doubt some shooters that look better than others, but the major ones are all in the same league. The ones that aren't are instantly compared to those top tier ones and seen as inferior. If you don't keep up with the cutting edge game or beat it in some way, you get no attention and do not sell.
Ok, so knowing that lets jump back to JRPG's. SE with their infinite budget and dev time are free to complete their graphical masterpiece. You see a commercial and see their quality in their graphics and instantly know that's going to be good. Looking at almost any other non SE RPG it's instantly apparent they do not meet that bar.
Since those other non-SE JRPG's cannot meet that bar, they are instantly in the lower tier of an already low tier genre.
That's the first major strike.
The next major strike is to even make a modest JRPG it's a huge budget. It's hard to make a AAA game and it's hard to find someone to fund a AAA game. If they do fund that game, they want something that they know is going to sell. This doesn't really have anything to do with SE, but, JRG's don't traditionally sell well because, as you said, they are in need of a revival.
So the fact that SE is setting the bar so unrealististly high and the fact the genre is already a high risk, RPG's are no longer on the forefront. They are doomed to sit in the background with the point and click adventures.
I miss the old days when pretty much every JRPG that was released in the west were turnbased 
If it isn't turnbased it isn't worth playing
(mostly)
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I don't think FFXIII will revive JRPGs. FFXIII will no doubt sell incredible well but FF has always been the excpetion rather than the rule. Even when older gamers grow out of the series, there are always plenty of younger ones joining the frey. FFVII brought a lot of newcowers and FFX also brought newcomers as well. FFXIII will be no exception. If you think teens will only play shooters, you couldn't be more wrong. There research that proves that teens plenty many different video game genres.
I really hope so. I wish the market were as saturated in RPGs as it is right now in FPS.
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| routsounmanman said: I really hope so. I wish the market were as saturated in RPGs as it is right now in FPS. |
I don't think FPS's absolutely dominate RPG's in terms of sheer volume. Are you including WRPGs or no?
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I don't think FPS's absolutely dominate RPG's in terms of sheer volume. Are you including WRPGs or no? |
Even if count WRPGs, FPS are the dominant genre in the market right now. We are lucky to have 2-3 big RPG releases per year, in the caliber of an Elder Scrolls game, a Fallout, a Final Fantasy game.
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twesterm said:
Ah, well, in that case the Final Fantasy series is what is killing the JRPG's then. It's not that they're bad, it's that they are setting the bar too high. SE can handle taking five years to make an insanely high budget game but when FFXIII is released, good or bad, a bar on the look of the game will be set. JRPG's are a funny breed because gameplay doesn't matter so that means the game relies on graphics, story, and characters. Since you cannot see story and characters (well, character design I guess, but whatever) that means people are left to look at graphics. Lets jump back for a second-- look at your general shooter game, a major genre these days. There are without a doubt some shooters that look better than others, but the major ones are all in the same league. The ones that aren't are instantly compared to those top tier ones and seen as inferior. If you don't keep up with the cutting edge game or beat it in some way, you get no attention and do not sell. Ok, so knowing that lets jump back to JRPG's. SE with their infinite budget and dev time are free to complete their graphical masterpiece. You see a commercial and see their quality in their graphics and instantly know that's going to be good. Looking at almost any other non SE RPG it's instantly apparent they do not meet that bar. Since those other non-SE JRPG's cannot meet that bar, they are instantly in the lower tier of an already low tier genre. That's the first major strike. The next major strike is to even make a modest JRPG it's a huge budget. It's hard to make a AAA game and it's hard to find someone to fund a AAA game. If they do fund that game, they want something that they know is going to sell. This doesn't really have anything to do with SE, but, JRG's don't traditionally sell well because, as you said, they are in need of a revival. So the fact that SE is setting the bar so unrealististly high and the fact the genre is already a high risk, RPG's are no longer on the forefront. They are doomed to sit in the background with the point and click adventures. |
Wow! That was exactly what I was going to say, I agree completely.
You saved me A LOT of typing 
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