Generationally, this undoubtedly the case.  Halo is rising above last gen (and even rising consecutavely, though I doubt Reach will continue that), GT in all likelihood won't.

So you expected GT PSP to not break a million before the end of the year?  Really?  I have to say, I was bullish on the game and it's even well undershot what I expected...

1. Which is why I keep saying wait for the game to release and hit its peak before judging.

2. Yes:

A) Piracy

B) Free download with PSP Go

C) It's a PSP game. No racing rig to play with.

D) It's a half-assed job compared to other GT iterations.

Truly troll-tastic post! I mean, very interesting post with some enlightening points made. It's refreshing to see such unbiased, thoughtful posts for once.

I'm totally serious here.

1. That was in reference to "first next gen" release.  GT3 was the first GT-anything to hit PS2, the same doesn't really hold for GT5.  I'm saying GT5P's sales are proportionately inflated thanks to being the "first GT-anything" on the console.

2. Userbase declines effect software, and they generally hit the top selling software hardest.  Mario Kart is a prime example of that.  MGS too honestly.  I expect it'll be the same story for GT.

No, unless microsoft can pack natal+arcade for 150$.

Fine.  We'll wait until release, and just maintain the unshakable truth about Microsoft's stronger 1st party dominance until then.  (and likely after then. :P)

As far as GT, the download was restricted to Europe and as it was a bundled code, it should be tracked with these figures anyway (VGC) no?  I mean if a Final Fantasy spinoff fighter can crack a million on PSP, why can't GT?  I expected at least million, probably closer to 1.5m now.

1. I still don't see how that would work against GT5's sales. It seems like a spin to me.

2. Explain MGS3 to MGS4 then. And as for Nintendo games, it's a special case. It became a big seller since the Wii due to the strong legs Wii first party games have. PS game sales are usually divided to different audiences.

I'll have to continue this debate tomorrow. It's getting late, and I need to get some work done.

I think GT5 sales wont be as spectacular because GT3 really was the 1st photorealistic (or near photorealistic) racer. That was the reason I wanted a PS2. Now basically all racers are photorealistic and we have had so many this generation already. Unless you want a racing sim and you either dont have a 360 or have a PS3 you have had plenty of choices for photorealistic racers. If you have a 360 and want a photorealistic sim you have had two already with Forza 2 and Forza 3. So overall I believe the demand will be down.

Nevertheless hardware boost by GT5 will also be negated by GT5P release and the fact that when GT5 releases well over 30 million people will already have a PS3 and like 5 million of them will have GT5P.

Halo is bigger than GT on the basis that it finally managed to outsell the lowest selling full GT game to date?
If anything, the figures seem to indicate that GT5 will outsell GT, GT2 and GT4 (on the basis that GT3>GT1, GT4>GT2). You could even say the figures indicate GT5 will be the biggest selling GT game ever, though that is highly unlikely as it won't be so heavily bundled. GT is just as big as Halo though.

I doubt that GT5 will crush previous GT games, but to say that Halo is definitely bigger is just plain false.

People are always wanting to bring up the period since the launch of the PS3 and compare sales since then.  However, that is a mistake because the the initial 8 million represents a sizable saturation of the market in the US.