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Rath said:
supermario128 said:
You would think countries would feel they had to help out after all we've done for them. Maybe not Russia though.....

Is you serious?

 

@mrstick. America didn't join WWII until it had no other choice (when it was personally attacked). You basically fucked Western Europe and Britain over completely by not helping out your friends sooner. Don't try and make Europe feel guilty about it.

Yes I'm serious. We give all our money away to other countries and keep none for ourselves. Our government never helps out its own people. If we need some help other countries better come asap.




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supermario128 said:

Yes I'm serious. We give all our money away to other countries and keep none for ourselves.

 

Err.. couldn't you, you know, just bring in some paper and print some more bucks? :D

It's really easy because US currency is not something backed up by a gold or whatever. Also, doing so will help to turn external debt to basically nothing xD



Inflation is the problem with that, the more money you print the less it becomes worth.



Rath said:
supermario128 said:
You would think countries would feel they had to help out after all we've done for them. Maybe not Russia though.....

Is you serious?

 

@mrstick. America didn't join WWII until it had no other choice (when it was personally attacked). You basically fucked Western Europe and Britain over completely by not helping out your friends sooner. Don't try and make Europe feel guilty about it.

you can blame yourselves for that in getting the US involved in the most stupid fucking completely pointless war(WW1) in existence that led only to a larger war(WW2). Which is the thing you are referring to.

edit: I would like to note that I feel as though the germans and austria-hungary had a better cause for war than stupid ass france and Britain did. All parties in volved were wrong, but the allies were wrong-er for making something small blow up into one of the worst wars ever seen. And then the harsh reperations- which the US did not want to put on germany- killed even more civilians and made millions poor. Then led to the rise of hitler. A product of  Great fuckin' britain.



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Strategyking92 said:
Rath said:
supermario128 said:
You would think countries would feel they had to help out after all we've done for them. Maybe not Russia though.....

Is you serious?

 

@mrstick. America didn't join WWII until it had no other choice (when it was personally attacked). You basically fucked Western Europe and Britain over completely by not helping out your friends sooner. Don't try and make Europe feel guilty about it.

you can blame yourselves for that in getting the US involved in the most stupid fucking completely pointless war(WW1) in existence that led only to a larger war(WW2). Which is the thing you are referring to.

edit: I would like to note that I feel as though the germans and austria-hungary had a better cause for war than stupid ass france and Britain did. All parties in volved were wrong, but the allies were wrong-er for making something small blow up into one of the worst wars ever seen. And then the harsh reperations- which the US did not want to put on germany- killed even more civilians and made millions poor. Then led to the rise of hitler. A product of  Great fuckin' britain.

This post speaks the truth.

WW1 lead directly to WW2, so you can effectively blame Germany for US policy from 1939-1941. If the US had not been pushed into WW1, the people would have been much more conducive to helping out Europe in WW2(although WW2 would not have happened without US involvement in WW1).



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While a fun topic to mull over, I'll defer to the brilliance of Casablanca for this one:

Major Strasser: Are you one of those people who cannot imagine the Germans in their beloved Paris?
Rick: It's not particularly my beloved Paris.
Heinz: Can you imagine us in London?
Rick: When you get there, ask me!
Captain Renault: Hmmh! Diplomatist!
Major Strasser: How about New York?
Rick: Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade.




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Kasz216 said:
famousringo said:
Absolutely.

Despite the fact that the United States has certain colonial designs for Canada, they are a crucial military ally and as good a neighbour as you can hope for in a superpower. Furthermore, you can bet that any army willing to take on 300 million heavily armed Americans isn't going to blink at the idea of taking vast natural resources out of the hands of 30 million not-so-heavily armed Canadians.

Liberating the United States wouldn't just be the moral thing to do, it would be the prudent thing to do.

The US has colonial designs for Canada?

 

Of course. The US already has preferential access to our energy resources, and it's currently angling for preferential access to our water resources.

Don't get me wrong, the US is a tremendously valuable ally and we're getting a fair price on our resources, at least for now. But what do you suppose would happen if in 2030 Canada decided that China offered a better deal for oil, uranium, and fresh water? What would an America dangerously thirsty for water and energy do if Canada didn't want to sell it to them anymore?

Everything is fine as long as the resources keep flowing to the motherland. I don't really blame the US for wanting to maintain access to key resources, but I also don't think Canada will ever really have a choice as to who it sells to, or even whether we sell or not. There's a word for small satellite states who are locked into a trading agreement with a major world power.



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True famousringo.

I was just about to say that provided Mr.Stickball's hypothetical doesn't take place in a future in which the U.S. has already invaded Canada for it's water, we'd gladly defend our southern neighbor.



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That's a very complicated question.

What would the cause for the war be? If it's due to the US defaulting on its debt to a foreign power, I wouldn't support helping the US...

Also, if hypothetically a country had a good enough military to be able to invade the USA, I doubt our troops could get to the US alive. So that's another reason not to support going there.

But if we're talking about a hypothetical world in which a country can and does invade the US due to evil reasons, and if there's any reasonable probability that we can actually help, yeah I would support helping the US.



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well i woudnt complain if i was america but they did the best of pretty much all the ocuntries thanks to ww11 and because of it became a superpower,so dont play the "we saved your asses" card too mcuh



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