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theprof00 said:
Soma said:
theprof00 said:
Soma said:

I don't remember too much of it, but Reggie used data that took into account population growth and multiple ownership. The results indicated that those two variables were the reason the industry was growing, not popularity as many people believe.

Also, less and less kids and young people were interested in videogames, in other words, it was in most part the same people buying systems the reason the industry was growing.

Yeah, but where is that data taken from? Only industrialized nations obviously, and even then only ones that have national tracking services like nielsen and npd.

Look at Others chartz, they constitute a huge portion of the gaming purchases.

 

I agree that Nintendo could be just taking numbers out their ass, but we can see a tendency in Japan of desinterest. The same was slowly happening in America, I can speak for myself that if it weren't for the Wii probably I wouldn't had bought a new console. And I'm not alone in this. I mean, is just not that games were getting more complex, and expensive and all that, but people grow up and have less time to play, and with kids caring less to play then you know you have a major problem here, but it seems Nintendo is the only one that noticed that issue.

I just can't get over looking at that chart posted earlier and thinking there was stagnation. I can admit that maybe growth was slowing compared to past growth, for example ps2 had a peak year in 2001 when several huge games came out, so it's only obvious that growth would slow down a bit, but shouldn't that kind of dip in growth be comparable to the one we are in right now after wii hit its peak year?

I will also agree that the gaming industry was becoming polarized and that the wii did a great service by reclaiming all those customers, but I just find it hard to say that they saved it. It's more like they saved it before it was in trouble or something, but who's to say what would've happened?

As far as anecdotal evidence is concerned, I can easily say that I'm a much bigger spender now than I was before, and I've been gaming since the NES launch when I was 5. Then, I was lucky for 2-3 games a year, and now I'm looking at at least a game a month + Gamefly.

Also, I'm hesitant to say that Japan was getting disinterested in gaming. The fact is that there are numerous variables contributing to it and just to name a few:

  • aging population
  • slowing economy
  • move towards handheld gaming
  • RPG dominated market (long playtimes, replayability, mastering the game etc = less buying new games. For example, Monster Hunter, Etrian Odyssey, Pokemon)
  • move toward PC games and dating sims/eroge

For a final point, the industry is a living thing. When it faces trouble, things will change and evolve. In good times, it will flourish. There is a cause and effect to everything. I know they didn't say that the market will collapse, but to think that the market is in any real danger is silly. When the walls start closing in, drastic explosions of tech advancement and ingenuity will save it again and again. Sony did it, Nintendo did it, MS in some part did it, as did Atari among others. To say something like "we saved the industry" is just saying something like "we are part of the industry", ya'know? Gaming can never die because there is nothing else like it. Sure Nintendo might've saved the industry now, but eventually this model will tire out, and something will be there to replace it. Whether it will be Nintendo or someone else is up for debate, all I know is that they also contributed to its slowing in some ways. Long live gaming, Hallelujah!

 

We cannot judge things looking at revenue, I mean, with the PS3 at $600 and games at $60 dls now, it's obvious the revenue will be higher. Instead what we're seeing is less profit for many companies.

I too have more games than when I was a kid, but I have less time too. For some reason I keep buying games even if I know I'm not gonna play them in a loooong time. Other people would not do that, and just quit gaming, even if they love it.

 

I wouldn't say that Nintendo saved the industry, they haven't done anything yet. They are trying to expand it but as we see this year, one small mistake and they can lose their momentum and the interest of the people. I'm not sure if gaming can never die, if it continued the same path it's possible it could. With companies losing money right and left noone else would care anymore in it.

 



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