So, you're reducing my whole argumentation into a simlpe complaint because of the Muslim prayers. My post was far more complex, but we agree on "period", so yes, we should better leave it in "period".

The problem is something that can't be understood as easily as you all may think, just because too many people think that religious freedom = allow EVERYTHING.

Religious freedom = everything that does not infringe upon other fundamental rights. So if part of a religion was human sacrifice it obviously would not be allowed. However minarets certainly do not infringe upon other peoples rights in this way.

Just think of this: why the major problems are related to Islamism? Why does it seem more problematic than other religions?

Because there is a current problem with Islamic fundamentalism which is a response to the growing influence of western culture. However to discriminate against all Muslims because of a fundamental minority is wrong.

The truth is that Muslims are difficult people to deal with. I don't pretend to judge every Muslim, but they generally tend to practice (in a more or less aggressive way) their own customs and habits beyond their personal space. They go to live to other countries but they pretend to live the same way they live in their origin country, they don't care if the new country has a different culture or religion.

This is purely in your experience and not necessarily correct. I would in fact from the Muslims I know say the opposite - they live with both cultures present in their lives.

There are so many examples... Don't you remember what happened in France some years ago when a lot of Muslim youngsters revolted against the police and burnt cars? Even in this case, the criticism towards them wasn't allowed and "it turned out" that they were some kind of heroes revolting against the discrimination towards Islam... ¬_¬

This is related to the minarets how?

There are more cases in France or in Spain (as far as I know) where Islamics don't respect the rules about noise levels (their early prayers, for instance or... surprise! the use of minarets for their call to prayers) and healthiness at their houses or worship places. But don't worry if you're a Muslim, when the local authorities ask you to accomplish the law that EVERYBODY must obey, you can just throw the "xenophobic card" and go to the media.

Laws in Switzerland had already banned the call to prayer so this is an irrelevant argument in this case.

I know a case of a Muslim that didn't want to pay his part of neighbourhood expenses because the president of the Community Committee was a woman, at that time. In some other towns, they asked the local authorities to close the swimming pools to the general public, one day a week, for their women to take a bath. Some Muslims openly say that they want to spread the Muslim kingdom "with the wombs" of their women (this happens in Spain, especially, where they had been reigning after an invasion, back in the 8th century).

This is related to the discussion how? Because you disagree with some things some Muslims have done we should discriminate against them?

On the other hand, as a Christian you can't go to a Muslim country and openly profess your faith, in most of the cases.

See above

Some European countries are worried about this issue, but they are not even allowed to show their concern because they would be automatically catalogued as racist and intolerant.

Yes, Muslims MUST have their freedom, but so does the other people.

And how does a minaret infringe upon anybodies freedom?

Your whole arguement is without merit.  This is about a minaret ban.  Any other larger arguement is completly without any merit.

Though, the rest of your arguement was infact... off base.  Because it's not just Muslims that their are issues with immigration.

The US also has problems with Hispanic immigration.  The difference is... we're not in the buisness of enacting racist laws.

It's muslims in europe because... surprise, muslims are the biggest immigrant group.

Nobody cares about a few token asians or something becuase they're token.

Kasz216 said:

I'm against it as well.

Not all women who wear burkhas are for it... and i'd argue... likely most aren't as well.

Banning it has two main problems.

1) It's actually counterintuitive to woman's rights... which is why most women's rights groups don't like the ban.  You are telling women what is appropriate for them to wear.  It's no better a stance then the fundamentalist forcing you to wear it.

2) It doesn't actually adress the problem.   The women who were previously forced to wear it, aren't any better off in reality... the only difference is the public gets to ignore the problem.  It would be like if wife beaters forced their wives to wear yellow.  Banning of the color yellow for women to wear would just makes it harder to identify women who are abused... it wouldn't stop the underlying abuse.