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I think it really depends on whether you grade him based on what he was "Sold" (by the media mostly) to be, how he stands next to other presidents, or against how I personally expected him to perform ... Personally, I would give him an F- based on how he was sold, a D+ based oh how he stands against most presidents, and a C+ based on how I expected him to perform.



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Well, most of the grades listed here are probably still better than what most of the nation's children get.



 

 

Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Wait, has Obama done anything? Can we grade him on inaction?

He changed some really minor laws... something involving... I want to say womens rights. 

Increased stem cell funding.

Increased SCHIP (healthcare for children)

Made a speach where he defended the Islamic headveil (negative)

I think... is ahead of the Bush plan to pull troops out of Iraq by about 20K.

 

Though as for grading people on inaction... people had no problem doing it with Hoover or James Buchanon.

Yeah, it was embrionic stem cell research...which is stupid, it has been proven that adult stem cells are easier and more ethical to get, and they are more effective. The guy is a complete moron.



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MontanaHatchet said:
Well, most of the grades listed here are probably still better than what most of the nation's children get.

lol sadly it porbably is true



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rocketpig said:
Wait, has Obama done anything? Can we grade him on inaction?

In his first week in office, Barack Obama has done the following:

  • Froze the salaries for top White House staff members. This is a largely symbolic act, but might be an important one.

  • Set a deadline for the closing of Guantanimo Bay. Some of his supporters would say this is a great thing because they believe it operates as something from the Dark Ages. Others believe this characterization to not be true, and that no plan will be put place to determine what to do with the prisoners. Time will tell.

  • Fast-tracked the process to apply new fuel standards to 2011 car models AND initiated steps to allow California to set its own standards for auto emissions that are stricter than that of the Federal government. Again, this is a measure that some of his supporters hail as a grand step forward, while his detractors(or flamers) point out that it could provide an additional severe drag on the economy, especially in car manufacturing areas.

  • Signed a detailed executive order to ban torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners.

  • Asked the military leadership to engage in additional planning necessary to execute a responsible military draw down from Iraq.

  • Released the interrogation memos without consulting the Bush staff and/or Bush about it. And they were only partially released some of the information in the memos were not made public.

  • Signed an executive order that restored a 30-day timeframe for former presidents to review records before they are released. It also eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews.

  • Signed an executive order that requires that appointees sign forms saying that they were not hired because of political affiliations or contributions. This is far from an unbeatable measure, but is an important early step towards cleaning up governmental hiring policies. It is easier to prove someone lied when their signature is right next to the statement in question.

  • Signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists and banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous years. Promptly made the order toothless by immediately granting a waiver to a former defense lobbyist.

  • Lifted a ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information.
  • Granted his first TV interview as president to Al-Arabiya, a channel described as a "voice of moderation" to the Middle East. His supporters call this a very smart move to help angered nations and groups feel a bit less cast aside, and let them know that they need not resort to violence to be made a part of the world discussion. Detractors point out that this is the type of thing Neville Chamberlain would have done, though a TV interview and "the Munch Agreement" are leagues apart.

In his first 7 months in Office:

  • He's done quite a lot actually.
  • He has so far passed an economic recovery bill which has met mixed criticism but is slowly progressing. He has passed the AMD Stabilization and Support bill which was tailored to help stabilize and strengthen the United States Military, and has shown improvement within the standard. President Obama has also been working on other proposals, bills, and acts to be passed on topics such as Health Care reform, Education, the Mortgage crisis, the war on Al-Qaeda, and Domestic policy.
  • Promised to send additional troops to Afghanistan in March and began the pullout of troops in Iraq.
  • Passed the bailout of the auto industry and pressured their management to tow the party line
  • Spent more money then any other President in history bring our debt to bankruptcy levels
  • Waffled on sending troops and allowed those serving no suffer from lack of support.
  • refused to allow open meetings regarding health care reform as promised
  • Passed more tax increases on middle America then any other President
  • Encouraged Cap and trade passage to increase demand of foreign oil and raise the cost of our supply
  • Promised to make tough decisions regarding the ability to continue paying medicare payments (rationing of health care for poor)
  • Insulted police doing their jobs making the office look foolish


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darklich13 said:
rocketpig said:
Wait, has Obama done anything? Can we grade him on inaction?

In his first week in office, Barack Obama has done the following:

  • Froze the salaries for top White House staff members. This is a largely symbolic act, but might be an important one.

  • Set a deadline for the closing of Guantanimo Bay. Some of his supporters would say this is a great thing because they believe it operates as something from the Dark Ages. Others believe this characterization to not be true, and that no plan will be put place to determine what to do with the prisoners. Time will tell.

  • Fast-tracked the process to apply new fuel standards to 2011 car models AND initiated steps to allow California to set its own standards for auto emissions that are stricter than that of the Federal government. Again, this is a measure that some of his supporters hail as a grand step forward, while his detractors(or flamers) point out that it could provide an additional severe drag on the economy, especially in car manufacturing areas.

  • Signed a detailed executive order to ban torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners.

  • Asked the military leadership to engage in additional planning necessary to execute a responsible military draw down from Iraq.

  • Released the interrogation memos without consulting the Bush staff and/or Bush about it. And they were only partially released some of the information in the memos were not made public.

  • Signed an executive order that restored a 30-day timeframe for former presidents to review records before they are released. It also eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews.

  • Signed an executive order that requires that appointees sign forms saying that they were not hired because of political affiliations or contributions. This is far from an unbeatable measure, but is an important early step towards cleaning up governmental hiring policies. It is easier to prove someone lied when their signature is right next to the statement in question.

  • Signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists and banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous years. Promptly made the order toothless by immediately granting a waiver to a former defense lobbyist.

  • Lifted a ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information.
  • Granted his first TV interview as president to Al-Arabiya, a channel described as a "voice of moderation" to the Middle East. His supporters call this a very smart move to help angered nations and groups feel a bit less cast aside, and let them know that they need not resort to violence to be made a part of the world discussion. Detractors point out that this is the type of thing Neville Chamberlain would have done, though a TV interview and "the Munch Agreement" are leagues apart.

In his first 7 months in Office:

  • He's done quite a lot actually.
  • He has so far passed an economic recovery bill which has met mixed criticism but is slowly progressing. He has passed the AMD Stabilization and Support bill which was tailored to help stabilize and strengthen the United States Military, and has shown improvement within the standard. President Obama has also been working on other proposals, bills, and acts to be passed on topics such as Health Care reform, Education, the Mortgage crisis, the war on Al-Qaeda, and Domestic policy.
  • Promised to send additional troops to Afghanistan in March and began the pullout of troops in Iraq.
  • Passed the bailout of the auto industry and pressured their management to tow the party line
  • Spent more money then any other President in history bring our debt to bankruptcy levels
  • Waffled on sending troops and allowed those serving no suffer from lack of support.
  • refused to allow open meetings regarding health care reform as promised
  • Passed more tax increases on middle America then any other President
  • Encouraged Cap and trade passage to increase demand of foreign oil and raise the cost of our supply
  • Promised to make tough decisions regarding the ability to continue paying medicare payments (rationing of health care for poor)
  • Insulted police doing their jobs making the office look foolish

That one doesn't sound right...



The thing I is sad really, is no matter what a president does, it's either good or bad for some demographic. Obama was elected based on the votes of the poor and the young.

The people he has done the least for, is the poor and the young.

In the case of healthcare, currently the old pay 6 times the amount that the young do. To help cover pre existing conditions, the current bill being voted on expects the young to get health insurance (most don't have it by choice), and then are at the same time trying to raise the cost of coverage for the young to be half of what old people pay (without lowering the cost to old people).

So the people who really lose with this health care bill are the people who put him in office to begin with.



Neutral on Obama as he is a leader from another nation.

Probably a C grade as he hasn't done anything to adversely affect policies in my country(Canada), yet. Neither negatively or positively.



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He's a democrat so automatic "F"

Bring back Bush!



Rath said:
He's started a lot of things. He needs to finish them before I feel comfortable grading him.

Basically this.

Once he starts actually finishing the stuff he's started, then he should be graded.

He'd get some brownie points if he reversed his stance on landmine bans, though.



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