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Just wondering what everyones thoughts on this are. Will MS enter next gen with a 3D enabled console, or will they brush it aside like they did with BluRay? Does MS have the technology and/or does Sony have a patent on 3D gaming? Would you like to see Gears and Halo in 3D?

 

I wanted to put this out for discussion. Lets try to keep it civil. Im interested in hearing your thoughts.



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Doesn't this require 3D tv's? How many people actually own 3D tv's?



 

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I don't have all the answer, but I have a few

What do you mean by 3d enabled? There is no binary enabled/not enabled option. It's just a matter of whether the console is powerful enough to run it at a decent frame rate and with enough graphical effects to satisfy.

And yes, I suspect next generation 3d gaming will be very similar to blu ray this generation (ie any console with it in will hamstring itself by being too expensive)

I highly doubt Sony has the technology patented. Surely the people who first demoed it would...

I personally wouldn't like Gears or halo no matter how many D's it had (actually, I haven't played either gears game so I might like that even not in 3d)



I don't know if Microsoft will embrace it or not, but I think I can still answer a few of your questions:

Q: Does MS have the technology?
A: On the console side, the technology is nothing special, very simple actually. All you need is a powerful enough system to output at 120 frames per second, and the shutter glasses (really a 1-pixel LCD screen for each eye) which alternately block each eye's view, resulting in 60 frames per second for each eye from the correct perspective. In fact, the Master System from Sega already had a similar technology.

On the TV side, however, you need a TV which can not only display at 120 Hz (many already do), but also accept a 120 Hz input (few do, and they're not cheap). I think 3D-enabled TVs will be more rare than HDTVs were when this generation started. This is what makes it hard to say if MS will be interested, and if people will actually adopt it.

Q: Does Sony have a patent on it?
A: I don't think so, since Nvidia has already launched a 3D gaming product for the PC.

Q: Would you like to see Gears and Halo in 3D?
A: Probably, but I don't think I will have a 3D TV any time soon. I may buy a 3D-enabled LCD for my PC, any more than that is probably going to be too expensive in the next few years. Besides I probably don't want to wait long enough for prices to come down before upgrading my current TV.



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your tv needs to be able to do 120HZ... and not much ppl have that. so i think itll be an optional thing in the future for gaming



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Do you need those stupid glasses for 3D tvs?



 

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bumblejr2 said:
your tv needs to be able to do 120HZ... and not much ppl have that. so i think itll be an optional thing in the future for gaming

I know I'm repeating myself, but it really needs to be said that not all 120 Hz TVs are 3D-ready. It needs to be a TV which accepts 120 Hz input through HDMI.

Some 120 Hz TVs are actually generating extra frames in between the 60 Hz input.

 



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Considering 3D TV's are not in stores yet, not many people own them lol.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Do you need those stupid glasses for 3D tvs?

Not the red-green ones, but yes you need glasses. See my post above, or read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCD_shutter_glasses

 



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^I smell virtual boy

Seriously I'm not getting this ever, when they actually make it 3D without the need for that type of silliness then I might consider it



 

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