Half of those groups are working on games.  Intelligent Systems, Sora Project, Monolith Soft and Retro are all working on known projects at this moment, though they are being kept hush hush.  Brownie Brown is currently working on the next Professor Layton title as well as making a new game called 'Fantasy Life'.

And its not like most of these projects have been dormant.  I mean, Intellegent systems, Sora Project, Monolith Soft and HAL Labs have already made games this gen.  Quite a few actually.  People keep harping on Nintendo and saying they've slowed down but you have to understand...they started this gen with one of the biggest launches they've ever had.  And then the following two years carried their system practically with their own software.  You can't immediately just turn over and produce games in house like magic when all of your studios have been going non-stop at the same time.

Originally blaming Nintendo? Where?? Learn to read maybe?

I said 3rd parties treated the Wii the same as Nintendo treated NA. I know third parties aren't giving the Wii their best efforts or all the games they should, that's why I made that analogy. All I'm saying is that Nintendo shouldn't be complaining about something they are doing as well.

Yea, because NCL and NoE had no worries about this game ...

Nintendo as a whole was iffy about the game.

Nah, otherwise they wouldn't have released in 2 regions. 1 would have been enough already. You need to stop trying to find excuses.

What the hell does my post have to do with making "family friendly games"? Pay attention.

I already mentioned that Retro is working on a new project. We heard Iwata mention something briefly about Sora Project back in February, I've heard no news whatsoever about Intelligent Systems working on anything (although I'll give you that one since they did release a few Wii titles), and I've heard no news at all about Monolith Soft working on anything...unless they announced a Day of Crisis 2 sequel or something. And come on man, HAL Labs has done one game this generation...Brawl. Hardly the output of an Intelligent Systems or other 2nd parties.

And that still doesn't explain NST. What the hell are they doing?? Project HAMMER got cancelled and....? I don't want them working on another Mario & Donkey Kong. Put their asses to work on making a new IP! If you're going to spend the money to start up a first-party development studio here, utilize it properly.  My point is, the talent and the resources are already in place to be self-sustaining if we would utilize them all properly. Hell if need be, let the western studios (NST and Retro) focus on making some new IPs to help carry Nintendo going forward, and the Japanese studios and can focus on the existing core franchises.

11ht11 said:
"i think nintnedo should start by making their own games that are like AC and COD"

Your response, "EXACTLY!"

You seem to think they should make games like AC and COD. Have you played those games? You think Nintendo want's to make games about assassin's and killing Nazis?

Oh Reggie, several things:

1. Your top selling games aren't in the same category as Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, etc...  The said "hardcore" market went high-def.

2. Your controller is different, and not appealing to hardcore gamers.

3. The Wii can't compete on the graphic front compared to the other consoles.

So, Reggie, you paid a price by making the Wii as you had made it.  It is the price of creating a Blue Ocean.  When you do that, don't expect the red market to follow you.

And you seem to make wild, ridiculous assumptions. My argument has repeatedly been about Nintendo making NEW IPs...LIKE Assasin's Creed and Call of Duty, not to make M rated games exactly like them. Feel free to continue to ignore my overall point about Nintendo making new IPs and utilizing their development studios, however.

There's more to Nintendo than just the Wii.  HAL has already made 3 DS Kirby titles and is rumored to be making a Kirby Wii title as we speak.

Project Sora IS making a new game, headed by Sakurai, and they are working on, to quote Sakurai "a brand new game like no one has ever seen before".  We'll see if they can deliver.

Retro is suppose to be working on a new game following Metroid Prime 3/Metroid Prime Trilogy.  We'll see what comes of that.

Intelligent Systems has been very busy this gen, working on three different Fire Emblem titles, two different Advance Wars games, Super Paper Mario, and helping multiple different groups on such games as WarioWare and Planet Puzzle League.  And they just finished wrapping up a joint venture with Armor Project (of Dragon Quest fame) to produce Dragon Quest Wars for DSiWare.  You better believe they're working on something else.  They're pretty much Nintendos most active second party.

Don't forget about developers like Camelot, currently working on Golden Sun DS.

And of course there's Game Freak, who's releasing three different Pokemon games early next year.

And don't discount all of Nintendo's first party companies, who are working on Metroid Other M, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Zelda: Spirit Tracks and Legend of Zelda Wii

Really....Nintendo and its second parties are set.  Its securing third parties it needs to worry about.