Kasz216 said: Cthulhu said: Soap_McTavish said: Joelcool7 said: Soap_McTavish said: LBP never tried to be hardcore. That being said, it offers more than any other platformer does. Not saying which is better, just saying. That depends if your talking DLC and user generated content or actual out of the box functionality? Out of the box Little Big Planet is just a really pretty side scroller at best comparable to Mario. But Mario offers a far wider range of difficulty and plenty more in game content then LBP. Excluding all the clothes and stickers (Which really don't effect platforming at all) how does out of the box mario offer more than 4 player local, online co-op and an infinite amount of user generated content and the ability to create your own levels? I admit, the platforming is different, it doesn't have the same nostalgia, and you know what? The level design in Mario is in most cases better, but in terms of what you are getting from a game, LBP Is a far superior product. There's a reason why It's a 95 on metacritic with many GOTY awards. ^^ THIS. NSMW might be a great game but LBP is in another universe. Dont compare them Except LBP's platforming physics suck.  You can offer all the user generted content in the world but if the underlying physics suck it's not really going to matter. Floaty physics were more or less the definition of bad platformer up until.... LBP came out i guess.  I can't think of one game people said was good that had physics that floaty before.

No they dont suck. Its just different and something you need to get used to. I never had any problem with how the game plays. And the games physics are out of this world man. Platforming in LBP is an extra!

lol at comparing lbp to mario.

Take away the user generated content in LBP and you have a mediocre game. A game should be good even without it. That said, it does have user generated content, so I don't mind that LBP gets better reviews then NSMBW. Nintendo played on the safe side with this one. If they added some unlockable characters and online mode with leader boards I'm sure it would have gotten 95%+ reviews all over the internet. Not that I care about online, but some people do I guess.

Cthulhu said: Kasz216 said: Cthulhu said: Soap_McTavish said: Joelcool7 said: Soap_McTavish said: LBP never tried to be hardcore. That being said, it offers more than any other platformer does. Not saying which is better, just saying. That depends if your talking DLC and user generated content or actual out of the box functionality? Out of the box Little Big Planet is just a really pretty side scroller at best comparable to Mario. But Mario offers a far wider range of difficulty and plenty more in game content then LBP. Excluding all the clothes and stickers (Which really don't effect platforming at all) how does out of the box mario offer more than 4 player local, online co-op and an infinite amount of user generated content and the ability to create your own levels? I admit, the platforming is different, it doesn't have the same nostalgia, and you know what? The level design in Mario is in most cases better, but in terms of what you are getting from a game, LBP Is a far superior product. There's a reason why It's a 95 on metacritic with many GOTY awards. ^^ THIS. NSMW might be a great game but LBP is in another universe. Dont compare them Except LBP's platforming physics suck.  You can offer all the user generted content in the world but if the underlying physics suck it's not really going to matter. Floaty physics were more or less the definition of bad platformer up until.... LBP came out i guess.  I can't think of one game people said was good that had physics that floaty before. No they dont suck. Its just different and something you need to get used to. I never had any problem with how the game plays. And the games physics are out of this world man. Platforming in LBP is an extra!

You don't "need to get used to it".  They're floaty.  It's pretty easy to work.

Which is my point.  Floaty slow platforming has never been thought of as good... ever.  Until LBP for some god forseen reason.

and considering LBP is a platformer.  To say it's an extra is well... Is the shooting in a FPS game an extra?

 

@Kasz216

Lets give it a rest. I never compered NSMW with LBP. I think LBP offers a lot more but overall which is best I dont know as I havent played any Mario game since the first in Gameboy.

Everyone has its own opinion

Cthulhu said: @Kasz216 Lets give it a rest. I never compered NSMW with LBP. I think LBP offers a lot more but overall which is best I dont know as I havent played any Mario game since the first in Gameboy. Everyone has its own opinion

You agreed with someone who compared LBP to NSMBW.

Regardless, your opinion seems to be... no matter how bad the underlying mechanics are, as long as you add a bunch of other stuff... it eventually makes the game A+ material.

So if someone creates a FPS with sluggish slowmotion controls... but gives it 4 player co-op and a really easy to understand level creation kit... it can be better then any regular FPS... because at that point the "FPS" aspects are secondary.

 

Joelcool7 said: Soap_McTavish said: LBP never tried to be hardcore. That being said, it offers more than any other platformer does. Not saying which is better, just saying. That depends if your talking DLC and user generated content or actual out of the box functionality? Out of the box Little Big Planet is just a really pretty side scroller at best comparable to Mario. But Mario offers a far wider range of difficulty and plenty more in game content then LBP. Excluding all the clothes and stickers (Which really don't effect platforming at all)

u know LBP it's user generated content right?

making both statement totally false, difficulty depends on the user, wider library of world for LBP than nsmbwii

@samus aran, of course, if you take anything off any game it will suck, take platforming from mario, and its a plumber with a repeative and mediocre story.

Kasz216 said: Cthulhu said: @Kasz216 Lets give it a rest. I never compered NSMW with LBP. I think LBP offers a lot more but overall which is best I dont know as I havent played any Mario game since the first in Gameboy. Everyone has its own opinion You agreed with someone who compared LBP to NSMBW. Regardless, your opinion seems to be... no matter how bad the underlying mechanics are, as long as you add a bunch of other stuff... it eventually makes the game A+ material. So if someone creates a FPS with sluggish slowmotion controls... but gives it 4 player co-op and a really easy to understand level creation kit... it can be better then any regular FPS... because at that point the "FPS" aspects are secondary.

I agree. Its all the other stuff that make LBP a great game, not the platforming

LBP was a big let down for me. Cutesy graphics does nothing for me. Pretty much meh. SMG was ok too, I found it boring after I beat it once and so I never got to unlock luigi.

Now Super Paper Mario was fucking awesome. I remember staying up late and playing through all levels, too bad it didn't have much replay value after I beat it once. There's just something great about 2D Mario, something fun that keeps me coming back for more. I'm pretty sure that 4-player NSMBW will rock, can't wait to play it! This game and Naruto and possibly a new Bleach game with support for Motion+ are the games that I'll buy for Wii this year.

Cthulhu said: Soap_McTavish said: Joelcool7 said: Soap_McTavish said: LBP never tried to be hardcore. That being said, it offers more than any other platformer does. Not saying which is better, just saying. That depends if your talking DLC and user generated content or actual out of the box functionality? Out of the box Little Big Planet is just a really pretty side scroller at best comparable to Mario. But Mario offers a far wider range of difficulty and plenty more in game content then LBP. Excluding all the clothes and stickers (Which really don't effect platforming at all) how does out of the box mario offer more than 4 player local, online co-op and an infinite amount of user generated content and the ability to create your own levels? I admit, the platforming is different, it doesn't have the same nostalgia, and you know what? The level design in Mario is in most cases better, but in terms of what you are getting from a game, LBP Is a far superior product. There's a reason why It's a 95 on metacritic with many GOTY awards. ^^ THIS. NSMW might be a great game but LBP is in another universe. Dont compare them

 

Cthulhu said: @Kasz216 Lets give it a rest. I never compered NSMW with LBP. I think LBP offers a lot more but overall which is best I dont know as I havent played any Mario game since the first in Gameboy.  Everyone has its own opinion