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I'm sorry, but I found this pretty funny given all the talk about measures taken against copying cards.

 

[Source Kotaku]

Eye of Judgment Card Creating Easier Than Expected?

We've already proven that the collectible cards for The Eye of Judgment are easily copyable, but some Japanese 2channel message board posters have an even lower tech solution for skirting card security. Allegedly, some DIY PlayStation 3 owners have created their own fake cards without requiring an original scan nor access to special inks, generating them with Photoshop or simply drawing out the basic identifying shapes by hand with a couple of colored felt-tipped markers.

Unfortunately, the west coast office has no access to a copy of The Eye of Judgment with which to test this out. It's actually I'm quite interested in pursuing, as I asked the game's North American producers just how they had planned to circumvent card copying and cheating at E3 earlier this year. They didn't seem the slightest bit concerned at the time.

Given that one of their revenue streams may be drying up, should guilt-free players opt not to drop $15 on theme packs or $4 on booster packs, we wonder how concerned they are now.

Thanks for the tip, macavity.

 



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And as much as I hate to say this and as much as I love CCG's, I would probably print out decks (though I wouldn't for any kind of tournament play if there ever was such a thing). CCG's are expensive and this game apparently just makes it too easy.

And I know people constantly say that creating your own cards won't affect anything, but every card games have insane combos that the creators never planned for. It's not due to bad testing, it's just you can't test everything and with every set the chance of more killer combos gets worse and worse. Even M:tG had Channel/Fireball in its first set.



Not to mention you can print out multiple copies of the best cards and just scan them all into your deck at once. The game itself is pretty simple. Strong cards will rule it. If you find the strongest card in the game on the internet you can print out multiple copies of him and add them all to your deck and viola, you are going to dominate everyone who plays it the right way. Basically, this breaks the game's online play completely. The only people who you can play with now are people who you trust not to cheat.



I was pretty shocked when I read about the game, and thought "hang on - isn't it possible to copy cards?".

They should have considered making the cards purely digital - but that would cancel out the need for the camera + gimmicks.

Maybe a unique barcode for *every* card (serial number) with a simple CRC would have fixed it?

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I also heard from a guy at work who played/saw the game at TGS - that the camera recognition is, in general - terrible.

Interesting to see how this one sells.



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shams said:
I was pretty shocked when I read about the game, and thought "hang on - isn't it possible to copy cards?".

They should have considered making the cards purely digital - but that would cancel out the need for the camera + gimmicks.

Maybe a unique barcode for *every* card (serial number) with a simple CRC would have fixed it?

...

I also heard from a guy at work who played/saw the game at TGS - that the camera recognition is, in general - terrible.

Interesting to see how this one sells.

 From what I've heard the camera recognition isn't bad once you find the right light, though I don't know how hard it is to find the right light.



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Hmm but what will collectors do?

I mean I saw a lot of FAKE Pokemon cards but still almost no one wanted those cards, they wanted the real one.

Will this not be the same case with he EOJ cards?






konnichiwa said:
Hmm but what will collectors do?

I mean I saw a lot of FAKE Pokemon cards but still almost no one wanted those cards, they wanted the real one.

Will this not be the same case with he EOJ cards?

 I think there will be the collectors that just want the cards and the people that just don't realize you can copy them, but I do believe that a lot of people are going to copy cards.

Playing in real life people in general are going to have real cards because you're actually there.  With EoJ and the fact most people are just going to be playing online, most people are going to condemn copying cards and the people that use them but those same people will copy cards anyways.

I'm sure it will turn into something like Counterstrike where anyone better than you is obviously cheating.  Well, he beat me but his cards were a little fuzzy so he must have been cheating so I really didn't lose that game. 



shams said:
I was pretty shocked when I read about the game, and thought "hang on - isn't it possible to copy cards?".

They should have considered making the cards purely digital - but that would cancel out the need for the camera + gimmicks.

Maybe a unique barcode for *every* card (serial number) with a simple CRC would have fixed it?

...

I also heard from a guy at work who played/saw the game at TGS - that the camera recognition is, in general - terrible.

Interesting to see how this one sells.

You heard it from someone?

I presume by 'camera recognition' you are refering to the camera recognising the cards as they are placed down.

I watched a live feed for over 20 mins of a journalist playing the game. The camera recognised all the cards immediately, and smoothly, without any problems.

@Twesterm- the same journalist turned down the lights at one point, resumed playing for a minute, then realised the light was too dim for the people on the webcam to view it properly, so turned the lights back up.

So far as I could ascertain from my viewing, the camera seems to work very well, even under dim light conditions, and I certainly would not have classified it as 'terrible'.

 



 

Hey, if they've found this out already, it must atleast be selling ok.



konnichiwa said:
Hmm but what will collectors do?

I mean I saw a lot of FAKE Pokemon cards but still almost no one wanted those cards, they wanted the real one.

Will this not be the same case with he EOJ cards?

The problem is... collectors tend to follow after the game becomes popular by the players.  If all the internet guys are instacopying the best cards and obliterating everyone it will be tough to attract people to play it long enough except for the real hardcore people.  Like those freaks that randomly online Pokemon battle.

 Also, i'm assuming a lot of people didn't want the fake Pokemon cards because it could get them kicked out of officially sanctioned tournaments.  I wonder what Wizard and Sony have planned for an "Approved Play" system.  A strong approved play system seems to be nearly as important to the game as the game mechanics themselves to get your card game to stick around for the long haul.