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nofingershaha on 12 November 2009
Ssenkahdavic said:
How do you review the bible tho?

Visuals?
Audio?
Lasting Appeal? 10/10 (this either stays with you for life, or stays with you in death if you did not read it in life)

Poor reviewer..damned if you do and damned if you dont

if it gets a bad review, at least a billion fanboys will cry foul around the world.



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Vagabund on 12 November 2009
Ssenkahdavic said:
How do you review the bible tho?

hmm, if you do it like you would review ordinary literature, it wouldn't get a very high score... the bible is a quite terribly written book, also compared with other religious texts (Edda, Greek mythology for example). Just my opinion of course, I don't want to start a religious war ;)

 

/edit: lulz above me :P



outlawauron on 12 November 2009
Ssenkahdavic said:
How do you review the bible tho?

Visuals?
Audio?
Lasting Appeal? 10/10 (this either stays with you for life, or stays with you in death if you did not read it in life)

Poor reviewer..damned if you do and damned if you dont

Nah, you can review the program easily. Is it done well? Is it easy to read? How about loading times? Are there any quick references you can jump to and from to access certain parts?

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djevolve420 on 12 November 2009
outlawauron said:
djevolve420 said:
spacetattoo82 said:
richardhutnik said:
spacetattoo82 said:
I think organized religion is usually based off brain wash and power. I think no one has a clue what happens when we die. I can give you my thoughts but it doesn't make them the law and what will happen.

I think we are all made out of information, inforamation never disappears it just changes. Time is just a illusion, so that being said I would doubt it if there is not something after this, I just think we have no clue. People that say that they do. 1 always have a set of rules for you to follow. 2 good and evil. 3 need money. usually harmless but when given the power things have got out of control bad and fast. Let me remind you that religion has killed more innocent people in history then anything else.

Certain other individuals on the Internet believe MW2 is worse than Big Rigs.  So, not sure what you think about organized religion counts for much. 

As far as killing people, I thought malicious intent, combined with weapons, killed more people than anything else.  But maybe religion did it.  Seems like, without people, religion doesn't seem to do anything.  Maybe God out there does, but never seen religion get up and do anything. 

Its like the law today, guilty by association.

vgchartz, you banned him for speaking his mind. This site is something else. I think what you get banned for in here, is maybe good for  a lawsuit against vgchartz.

freedom of speech vg. maybe one day someone will have enough money to make something happen.

No, you don't get banned for speaking your mind. You give whatever opinion you have, but you must do with intelligence and without insulting anyone. He was unable to do that.

If you think his ban is unjustified, and I must say I'm quite shocked, then go bring it up to Naz.

Yea, seems he used, I think, metaphores but never went after anyone or insulted anyone.

I think that you and the moderater are christian and can't sePerate opinions from insults.

I call shenanigans.



djevolve420 on 12 November 2009
MaxwellGT2000 said:
ocnkng said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
djevolve420 said:
spacetattoo82 said:
richardhutnik said:
spacetattoo82 said:
I think organized religion is usually based off brain wash and power. I think no one has a clue what happens when we die. I can give you my thoughts but it doesn't make them the law and what will happen.

I think we are all made out of information, inforamation never disappears it just changes. Time is just a illusion, so that being said I would doubt it if there is not something after this, I just think we have no clue. People that say that they do. 1 always have a set of rules for you to follow. 2 good and evil. 3 need money. usually harmless but when given the power things have got out of control bad and fast. Let me remind you that religion has killed more innocent people in history then anything else.

Certain other individuals on the Internet believe MW2 is worse than Big Rigs.  So, not sure what you think about organized religion counts for much. 

As far as killing people, I thought malicious intent, combined with weapons, killed more people than anything else.  But maybe religion did it.  Seems like, without people, religion doesn't seem to do anything.  Maybe God out there does, but never seen religion get up and do anything. 

Its like the law today, guilty by association.

vgchartz, you banned him for speaking his mind. This site is something else. I think what you get banned for in here, is maybe good for  a lawsuit against vgchartz.

freedom of speech vg. maybe one day someone will have enough money to make something happen.

lawls, ahem, to be cynical for moment, you don't even have complete freedom of speech in America, much less the internet on someone elses site.  You can have all the freedom of speech you want when you buy a server and start up your own site, otherwise we have rules where you can't insult people, much less insult their religion and take it to such an absurd level as poo worship, amongst other things. 

And honestly this thread was about an indie game bringing the Bible to XBLA, and done in a joking manner, where does coming into the thread to insult others beliefs play into the thread topic, hrm?  The ban was for the gross mistreatment of others and it wasn't even called for.  Honestly if nordlead saw it before me he'd probably be IP banned by now :P at least I'm a forgiving soul (Jesus told me to be forgiving )

I oppose this ban.

He used the 'poo worship' as a metaphor to demonstrate how blind belief can lead us in a completely wrong direction.

He was giving his reasons as to not believing in organized religion and why he thinks organized religion is detrimental to society. 

At no point did he engage in any sort of personal attack or any statement of disrespect for any individual.

By banning him you are demonstrating that any sort of critical argument against organized religion is not allowed (it will be automatically interpreted as 'disrespect against religious beliefs') This reminds me of the fervent intolerance long seen in the history of most religion.

Not one of you tried to debate the points that he raised.

I guess you missed the other amazing comments he made like, the brainwashing comments, and such.  It's one thing to not agree with others beliefs its totally different to speak of it in such a highly offensive manner.  And for the record personally attacking someones beliefs is personally attacking them, its called discrimination.

OH really, I think, Is now attacking people. Metaphores and telling people I think is not a attack and is opinion.YOU  are the one that should be banned. He said I think on everything and was very careful to not attack anyone. I just read through all of it.I think that this is clearly a biased ban..... GOOD JOB VGCHARTZ on making sure that any one on here opposes vgchartz ideas then they should be banned,WHICH BY THE WAY IS DISCRIMANATION. IT'S HOW YOU WORD THE SENTENCE. (for instance, I don't want to get banned since it's so easy.)  would more be like saying f--- jesus and you. When some one adds in I think, it automatically turns it into a opinion.

it's actually the law. for instance,I can say I think you should go f your self or go f your self. which is not opinion it's a threat then. get it...................................................................................................................................................................



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gurglesletch on 12 November 2009

I'd prefer a hardcover copy of the bible anyway.




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outlawauron on 12 November 2009
djevolve420 said:
Yea, seems he used, I think, metaphores but never went after anyone or insulted anyone.

I think that you and the moderater are christian and can't sererate opinions from insults.

I call shenanigans.

Alrighty, let's start from the top!

1. You can't assume you know anything about me and my personal life as I do neither to you.

2. His logic, and lack thereof, were so off base and there are so many outright lies in his first post alone. That's why I did not bother.

Also, here's his insults!

yea good idea, cause the only thing you got is ur faith, right?  You can't prove or disprove faith, am I right?

If thats your argument, then you can't prove that my turds are not god if I have faith in it.

pray to the poop god or go to the sewer.lol

This is an insult to my intelligence and that somehow faith makes you an idiot. (therefore calling me an idiot) Telling me to go pray to a poop god is good to be banned anywhere. Honestly, just dumb as hell.

Good christian value you bring up, believe me or I will get something to deal with you, what Are you going get?  sounds Like a threat? you threaten me again and I will report you.

I'm not insulting people, your insinuating. here you want to read up on evolution it will  do you good.http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/ardipithecus/

love up on johnny could mean a good hug. Maybe your guilty of something.

Once again, insinuating that I'm an idiot who needs to be taught. (which is humorous in itself if his profile is accurate). Also, the crude joke of love up on johnny and then telling me that I'm guilty of something. yeah right!

 

Alright, I promised myself I wouldn't get to into this, so I'll only use those two posts. I'd like you to read through his posts. Not only are they poorly written often lacking any point at all, he seems to forget what wrote just a few posts later!



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
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Ssenkahdavic on 12 November 2009
nofingershaha said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
How do you review the bible tho?

Visuals?
Audio?
Lasting Appeal? 10/10 (this either stays with you for life, or stays with you in death if you did not read it in life)

Poor reviewer..damned if you do and damned if you dont

if it gets a bad review, at least a billion fanboys will cry foul around the world.

If it gets a bad review, the reviewer will be smitted (by god or one of the fanboys) in the most biblical of ways. 

Lets just hope it doesnt get the usually terrible "port" treatment.

 

 



 

  

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richardhutnik on 13 November 2009
Squall_Leonhart said:
The 360 can keep this awful work of fiction LOL

Remind me to send Gideon's over to your home to drop off a Bible.

 

1 Corinthians 13

Love

 1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.

 4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

 8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

 13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

 

Taken from: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV

 



The Anarchyz on 14 November 2009
richardhutnik said:
Squall_Leonhart said:
The 360 can keep this awful work of fiction LOL

Remind me to send Gideon's over to your home to drop off a Bible.

 

1 Corinthians 13

Love

 1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.

 4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

 8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

 13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

 

Taken from: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV

 

I'm anti-religious, but this passage is one of the finest i can find in the book of Jewish fairy tales (also known as the Bible), and if people weren't hooked up on the jesus magic tricks or putting words where there're not (like saying "Jesus hates faggots", WTF is up with that), they'd discover the passages that matter, but NOOOO, they want to look at the Leviticus to ban gay marriage, but wait, the Leviticus also has slavery approval and bans most kinds of meat...

The Beatles once said "All you need is love" (also exclusive on Xbox360 XD XD XD XD )