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Boutros on 11 November 2009
huaxiong90 said:
PS3 and Xbox 360 users don't seem to like it either (4.6 and 5.5).

PS3 and Xbox 360 users love the game.

PC owners are giving it low scores. Now that's where it becomes a problem (the same happened with Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 I think).



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vlad321 on 11 November 2009
richardhutnik said:
vlad321 said:
richardhutnik said:
Boutros said:
jefforange89 said:

It's wrong to voice your opinion instead of being a sheep and buying in to the hype?

Those are not real opinions. It's frustration.

The game obviously does not deserve such a low score and people are blinded by their emotions (which is not very objective).

And in this thread is people indicating that it is justified to consider MW2 on the PC worse than Big Rigs.  I can understand venting frustration and so on.  But to end up being totally off-base, is absurd to me. 

Man at least Big Rigs did something new (trucks!) MW2 only goes back in every way possible. Single-Player back several years and mutliplayer several decades.

New as in being able to go backwards over 7000 MPH, having ZERO collision detection, and one track that didn't even load? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rigs:_Over_the_Road_Racing

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (often simply referred to as Big Rigs) is a racing game released for PC by Stellar Stone LLC in 2003. Due to its severe lack of functionality on release, the title has received universally negative reviews, with many critics referring to it as the worst video game of all time.

The box of Big Rigs states that the player may "race trucks across the country trying to deliver illegal cargo, with cops chasing [them]." GameSpot's Alex Navarro wrote that this description of the game is nothing more than "horrible, horrible lies"[1], since there are no police in the game. Additionally he pointed out that the computer-controlled opponent vehicles have no AI and never move from the starting position,[2] making even the description of the gameplay as a "race" questionable.

There are technically no obstacles for the player to negotiate in Big Rigs, as the truck may freely be driven on and off roads without any loss of traction, up or down 90° slopes with no loss or gain of speed, through structures such as buildings and trees, simply falling right through bridges, and even out of the boundaries of the map into an endless grey void. When the player's vehicle is put into reverse, it can accelerate indefinitely, but the truck will halt instantly when the reverse key is released.[3]

 

And no, it isn't trying to do something new (trucks).  Sega had done arcade truck racing before this.  So people need to get real here.  Want to know about Big Rigs?  Check out these video:

 

 

You lose ALL credibility when you put MW2 in the same class as this.  ALL.

 

Don't worry, you lost all credibility when you said MW2 is anything abve useless.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Boutros on 11 November 2009
vlad321 said:
Boutros said:
vlad321 said:
Boutros said:
jefforange89 said:

It's wrong to voice your opinion instead of being a sheep and buying in to the hype?

Those are not real opinions. It's frustration.

The game obviously does not deserve such a low score and people are blinded by their emotions (which is not very objective).

Please tell me how this is a good game deserving of a more than 5. I'll say hwhy it doesn't.

 

Single-player is lackluster comapred to modern games, it's worse than the first MW.

Multi-player is just shitty, period, it's jsut crap and nearly unplayable.

 

What's your reason for scoring it highly?

I didn't make any judgment on the game itself simply because I haven't played it yet but people seems to love it overall.

It's possible that you don't like the game but that doesn't mean the game is bad. You have to look at the majority and it seems you're a minority.

 

The SP in MW was awesome and even though the SP in MW2 is not as good, I am sure it's still good enough.

Console players will like a pile of crap if it had a gun and could move and would claim it wasa the best thing ever to happen to video games.

I need actual reasons why the game DOESN'T suck. So far you have none.

Also good enough doesn't cut it, it has to be better or this game might as well not have released, what good is i to me if I had a better game years ago?

26 reviewers out of 26 reviewers disgree with you. That means 100% reviewers disagree with you...

What else do you need?



Untamoi on 11 November 2009
Boutros said:
jefforange89 said:
Boutros said:
jefforange89 said:

It's wrong to voice your opinion instead of being a sheep and buying in to the hype?

Those are not real opinions. It's frustration.

The game obviously does not deserve such a low score and people are blinded by their emotions (which is not very objective).

The same argument can just as easily be made for all the high scores - people are just be blinded by the hype (or fat cheques from Activision).

Some of them might indeed be based upon hype but you have to look at the majority or reviews and in MW2's case, the reviews are very good so I think it's safe to believe the game is very good.

96/100 on metacritc can't be that wrong.

360 version is 95/100 on metacritic but PC is 89/100 so far. Only PC reviews are relevant to PC version. You can't compare 360 reviews to PC reviews just like you can't compare Wii review to PC review.



vlad321 on 11 November 2009
Boutros said:
vlad321 said:
Boutros said:
vlad321 said:
Boutros said:
jefforange89 said:

It's wrong to voice your opinion instead of being a sheep and buying in to the hype?

Those are not real opinions. It's frustration.

The game obviously does not deserve such a low score and people are blinded by their emotions (which is not very objective).

Please tell me how this is a good game deserving of a more than 5. I'll say hwhy it doesn't.

 

Single-player is lackluster comapred to modern games, it's worse than the first MW.

Multi-player is just shitty, period, it's jsut crap and nearly unplayable.

 

What's your reason for scoring it highly?

I didn't make any judgment on the game itself simply because I haven't played it yet but people seems to love it overall.

It's possible that you don't like the game but that doesn't mean the game is bad. You have to look at the majority and it seems you're a minority.

 

The SP in MW was awesome and even though the SP in MW2 is not as good, I am sure it's still good enough.

Console players will like a pile of crap if it had a gun and could move and would claim it wasa the best thing ever to happen to video games.

I need actual reasons why the game DOESN'T suck. So far you have none.

Also good enough doesn't cut it, it has to be better or this game might as well not have released, what good is i to me if I had a better game years ago?

26 reviewers out of 26 reviewers disgree with you. That means 100% reviewers disagree with you...

What else do you need?

Actual reasons why it didn't suck. They don't really give me any or just say things like better multiplayer (which it doesn't have) or better singleplayer (which it also doesn't have). So they are quite literally outright lying.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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huaxiong90 on 11 November 2009
Boutros said:
huaxiong90 said:
PS3 and Xbox 360 users don't seem to like it either (4.6 and 5.5).

PS3 and Xbox 360 users love the game.

PC owners are giving it low scores. Now that's where it becomes a problem (the same happened with Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 I think).

Killzone 2 user score: 8.3. GoW2 = 6.1.

 

I don't see how your point adds up. If anything, it's an opinion at the moment.



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MAFKKA on 11 November 2009

^ Obviously since its a Console game. Nukes and last stand is the best thing since sliced bread according to console gamers. Disabled party chat is also awesome. There can't be anything wrong with this game, ever. Reviewers says so.



richardhutnik on 11 November 2009
vlad321 said:
richardhutnik said:
vlad321 said:
richardhutnik said:
Boutros said:
jefforange89 said:

It's wrong to voice your opinion instead of being a sheep and buying in to the hype?

Those are not real opinions. It's frustration.

The game obviously does not deserve such a low score and people are blinded by their emotions (which is not very objective).

And in this thread is people indicating that it is justified to consider MW2 on the PC worse than Big Rigs.  I can understand venting frustration and so on.  But to end up being totally off-base, is absurd to me. 

Man at least Big Rigs did something new (trucks!) MW2 only goes back in every way possible. Single-Player back several years and mutliplayer several decades.

New as in being able to go backwards over 7000 MPH, having ZERO collision detection, and one track that didn't even load? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rigs:_Over_the_Road_Racing

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (often simply referred to as Big Rigs) is a racing game released for PC by Stellar Stone LLC in 2003. Due to its severe lack of functionality on release, the title has received universally negative reviews, with many critics referring to it as the worst video game of all time.

The box of Big Rigs states that the player may "race trucks across the country trying to deliver illegal cargo, with cops chasing [them]." GameSpot's Alex Navarro wrote that this description of the game is nothing more than "horrible, horrible lies"[1], since there are no police in the game. Additionally he pointed out that the computer-controlled opponent vehicles have no AI and never move from the starting position,[2] making even the description of the gameplay as a "race" questionable.

There are technically no obstacles for the player to negotiate in Big Rigs, as the truck may freely be driven on and off roads without any loss of traction, up or down 90° slopes with no loss or gain of speed, through structures such as buildings and trees, simply falling right through bridges, and even out of the boundaries of the map into an endless grey void. When the player's vehicle is put into reverse, it can accelerate indefinitely, but the truck will halt instantly when the reverse key is released.[3]

 

And no, it isn't trying to do something new (trucks).  Sega had done arcade truck racing before this.  So people need to get real here.  Want to know about Big Rigs?  Check out these video:

 

You lose ALL credibility when you put MW2 in the same class as this.  ALL.

 

Don't worry, you lost all credibility when you said MW2 is anything abve useless.

HOW DARE YOU POLUTE THE GLORY OF BIG RIGS BY SAYING THAT MW2 IS IN THE SAME CLASS?  You destroy the meaning of BEYOND epic failure by doing this.

You don't know the difference between a failure (useless) and an epic failure (beyond useless).  Big Rigs is BEYOND useless.  WAY beyond, which is why it is glorous. 



richardhutnik on 11 November 2009
MAFKKA said:
^ Obviously since its a Console game. Nukes and last stand is the best thing since sliced bread according to console gamers. Disabled party chat is also awesome. There can't be anything wrong with this game, ever. Reviewers says so.

As I wrote before, there is a problem lowering MW2 to an epic failure level of Big Rigs.  Not just a failure level.  Not just down to a 5, but on the same level as Big Rigs, which is less than 2.  You are free to knock MW2, but when you end up doing this, it is a problem. 



Boutros on 11 November 2009
huaxiong90 said:
Boutros said:
huaxiong90 said:
PS3 and Xbox 360 users don't seem to like it either (4.6 and 5.5).

PS3 and Xbox 360 users love the game.

PC owners are giving it low scores. Now that's where it becomes a problem (the same happened with Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 I think).

Killzone 2 user score: 8.3. GoW2 = 6.1.

 

I don't see how your point adds up. If anything, it's an opinion at the moment.

No I'm talking about back when they came out.

They deleted the reviews since then but both games had horrible user scores aroud their release because of the console war.

It happened to Halo Wars too.